I've long been tormented by knowing what is going to happen, though not through dreams.
On 28 Oct, 22:20, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a derth Neil…at least when it comes to idealistic ‘shoulds’. > Doing my best to leave Mind Only views aside here ( not very > successfully ), my best guess is that until one knows exactly what IS > (including how the situation(s) have come about etc.) along with one’s > own true nature, appearances will continue to seem to be a nightmare. > > On a more personal note, many years ago, I all but stopped having > precognition. I did notice the apparent lack, even though such visions > had not seemed to be dreams and occurred in both the dream state as > well as the awakened state. At first I felt a loss - then (and now) > accepted the change. I do not know how or why they ceased. > > On Oct 28, 2:51 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I sense a silence on dreams of how the world should be these days. > > > On 28 Oct, 15:08, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Pretty damned good Pat - thanks for taking the time. Although we've > > > had a tough time since we met, Sue brought me a sense of wholeness > > > I've not known before (except for a brief time that ended in > > > tragedy). I hadn't been thinking of my parents consciously. This, in > > > a way, is the beginning of a new space for us. > > > > On 28 Oct, 12:34, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 28 Oct, 11:33, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I had an odd day-dream a week ago. I had a big pond, though it was > > > > > rubber-bottomed. It was in a large garden. I was looking at it, > > > > > thinking of cleaning it up. I saw a baby elephant running about in > > > > > the bottom of it, under the water. I called Sue to have a look. Two > > > > > yobs climbed the garden wall and a saw them off with a brush. Next > > > > > thing I was in trouble with alligators, not exactly scared as they > > > > > were not that big and likely to be as scared of me as I them. My Dad > > > > > came and sorted them. No one was at all impressed with the pond, now > > > > > teeming with fish and Sue coaxed the elephant out. We went into a > > > > > large, messy kitchen. My Mum was around in the background as a smell > > > > > of bread and the whistling kettle on the Aga. > > > > > Symbolically, elephants are 'known' for their memory. A baby > > > > elephant, though, would seem to have 'less memory' due to age(?) than > > > > an older/bigger elephant. Classically, alligators and crocodiles > > > > represent 'deep wisdom' of which you were not afraid, nonetheless it > > > > was your father (and I'm assuming that your subconscious mind > > > > associates him with the wisdom of old age) that 'sorted them out' for > > > > you. The pond, itself, I think is life. Your wife coaxed out your > > > > memory (the elephant) and you admit, later, that you wish that the two > > > > had met. That almost speaks for itself. And, you're not afraid of > > > > the 'little wisdoms' (the alligators) of life (the pond). The smell > > > > of bread, I think, is a 'satisfaction from life' that you HAD when > > > > your parents were around that, in the meantime, has, perhaps, waned. > > > > To be honest, how many of your recent posts were all about how > > > > satisfied you are with life? > > > > In a nutshell, I think the dream was symbolically saying no more > > > > than: > > > > 1) that you wished you had the wisdom you feel your father had (or > > > > the wisdom with which you credit HIM but not yourself) and that you > > > > wished that Sue had known them. > > > > and > > > > 2) that if you DID have that wisdom, you'd be able to act in such a > > > > way that you (and others) would be impressed by the pond (of life). > > > > and > > > > 3) that you lack a satisfaction in life (the smell of baking bread) > > > > that you feel you've somehow lost since your parents have passed. > > > > > Did Sue mention something the previous day that reminded you of > > > > how much you wanted them to have met? As THAT would explain her > > > > coaxing the elephant (the memory of your your father) out of the pond > > > > (doubling, in this respect, as your own subconscience as well as > > > > representing life in general). Sound reasonable?? > > > > > > Mum and Dad died long ago. I've often wished they had met Sue. Life > > > > > is a bit uncertain at the moment, though a great pain has been lifted > > > > > from our lives, if not quite gone. It's new start time, though we are > > > > > both just escaping exhaustion after illness and stress. I'm happier > > > > > than for a long time, though not quite kicking on. > > > > > > Whatever the interpretation of this dream (feel free), there is > > > > > another kind of dreaming, let alone what a bit of opium might do. > > > > > This is much more directly concerned with thinking, trying to get a > > > > > new handle on problems and what life could be. This form of dreaming > > > > > is often despised as 'idealism' or 'Utopian'. You can see a form of > > > > > it in the 'real dream' above - at least in the desire for family, > > > > > somewhere decent to live (though the Aga in the kitchen and smell of > > > > > bread is distinctly not 'green'). We are short of a universal dream > > > > > of the way we would have the world. I have tired of one tracking down > > > > > crooks and violent solutions (television and films). Even destroying > > > > > the Australians at cricket (though I just have in a video game) > > > > > palls. What, in this sense is in our Mind's Eye? How would we have > > > > > the world?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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