Gil, would/could you equate your “attitude about reality” with my term
“a state”?



On Oct 28, 3:07 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> I believe Nirvanna is misinterpreted. To me it is not a state of peace and 
> tranquility or at - one -ment. Thus it is not the absense of conflict. Rather 
> I beleve it is an attitude about the reality of reality as a mixed bag often 
> permeated by internal and external conflict. It is an attitude akin to Molly 
> Blooms 50 page stream of consciousness soliloquy at the end of James Joyces' 
> Ulysses in which this long suffering but highly engaged in life woman 
> recapitualates her life and to it all ends up saying: "Yes, yes, yes, yes, 
> again yes. " To me her words are the quintessence between a realistic 
> understanding of the term "peace of mind."
>
>
>
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> From: ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 6:01 pm
> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Achieving Free Will: a Buddhist Perspective
>
> What if it [Nirvana] is not a state of something (i.e. a mind) also?
>  am not
> aying one way or another, just leaving a wide open query.” – e
> IF that were the case, then it (Nirvana):
> 1.  Would not be Nirvana
> .  Would be an appearance.
>
> n Oct 28, 2:52 pm, e <[email protected]> wrote:
>  On Oct 27, 8:07 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  > Dear e – (Eric?...I’m not sure what name Molly greeted you with
>  > either…)
>
>  My name is Eric...my firends call me e.
>
>  > Also, my experiences with Allan never found him being fundamentalist
>  > in the sense of his being a parrot quoting the Buddha of this era
>  > exclusively nor gratuitously either. Nor did I find him to be a
>  > philosophical nor theological ideologue in this respect. He at once
>  > was well read and able to recite countless texts if/when appropriate.
>  > When he spoke, he, in my view, made a nice synthesis between his own
>  > world view and what he had studied. Here, sadly again, I take off my
>  > apologist’s hat! ;-)
>
>  :-) No need to take off your hat, it's great to have dharma friends.
>
>   You said:
>
>  >   I more adhere to the Mind Only school.
>
>  And so this goes without saying:
>
>  > Continuing addressing your use of Nirvana, ...it is just that, a
>  > state, not a thing or a place as the terms are used in common
>  > parlance.
>
>  What if it is not a state of something (i.e. a mind) also? I am not
>  saying one way or another, just leaving a wide open query.
>
>  >  I seldom discuss things in dogmatic terms mostly due to
>  > the subjective nature of words. Case in point, even the link you
>  > provided was ambivalent about equating luminous mind and nirvana
>  > saying that the former can be transformed into the latter!
>
>  I posted the wiki for others not versed in Buddhist lingo. I know this
>  is not a Buddhist group. I thought it did a good job of showing the
>  history of the term.
>
>  > Thanks for adding your insights!
>
>  You too Orn!
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