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On 24 Nov., 06:33, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok a little to much...Hello....Hello...anybody out there...Stimulation for > 2012 > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, dj Briscoe > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I have a question---where on this earth and the mind's of man where there > > is a daily of discerment of right choice's and wrong choice and tell me when > > you get up daily where is there a place where there is no harm --that you > > pick up the paper and you watch TV that there is not bad that is not heard > > or seen...a man can make right choice and keep his walls around for the > > protection of uncleanness...and therefore does this keep him safe and his > > family as he goes out daily into a world of things that surrounds him...Name > > a reglion or a group or a culture that does not have in a term evil does not > > have this...and it is like a chess game and discussion making of what is > > good for his family--such has well the public schools have to much > > influncences -such as it could be drugs it could be sex or it could be in > > the teaching...so you can home school--you can put them in a private > > school..you can teach them well at home (and teach them well) and some have > > the oppurnitity's to be born in a family that are well educated and plenty > > of moeny...and it makes it easier...there were many poor people became > > learder's of nation's and contributed to causes of good...value's--morals-A > > man can do everything right for himself and family..follow every rule and > > authority that is set before him and be very honest at heart--care for his > > country---pay his taxes--make sure whatever he does is in perfection---and > > in the end--from poor health---and not able to do these things--in > > perfection--and so his good standard's is comprised for him and his Family > > but yet he hangs in there with his morals his intergity to the end...in rags > > he was in the end--and helped to be a back bone of a nation...and then the > > ones that he believed in and was faithful to was not faithful to him or his > > Family ..and had no mercy...is this evil or is it something else?...The good > > morals--good value's--good standard's---Not just one Man this was done to > > --but many--so which ones had the better morals-good value's--good > > standard's...the ones that took the taxes and spent it..and live high off > > the hog...and the working man with callaus on his hands and knee's...and the > > people was treated as dog's under such a corrupt nation's ...that any nation > > the ones that are in authority is and should be servants to the people of > > these nation's...You can say there is not evil ...but true evil is where the > > hearts are callous and have no mercy and are takers...greed is it not > > evil...or is it just greed and is not put in a light or dark ---but put in > > the area of good and bad...so which is the worse...of images of such a good > > light or images that seem to be bad values --bad morals--bad > > standards...there is a dark of this earth that is a disgustiing > > level...which I will not mention in my opinion...but there is people that > > have good value's--good standard's---good moral's--that have been pushed to > > a level or no return... > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> That is somthing that I hear quite offten, and whilst I certianly do > >> understand the sentiments, the reasoning sorta throws me. > > >> I cannot belive in a God that allows evil. > > >> So you can belive in a God that denies free will? Yet the denying of > >> free will itself, can that not be seen as an evil act by God? > > >> I don't know it tends to go around and around for me, what I can say > >> for sure though, is belive in whatever God you want, or belive in none > >> at all, that is your choice and I would not wish to convince you one > >> way of the other. > > >> On 23 Nov, 12:21, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I cannot believe in a God that allows evil so I guess I am in league > >> > with Dante's view- that there is indeed a Hell and a Heaven and they > >> > may well exist on earth in the consequences of our actions. This would > >> > explain many of the human problems that plague society. I know I have > >> > seen these outcomes though they may take years to emerge- and they > >> > present an elegant logic, all their own.// Church/religious law and > >> > Divine Laws may not always jibe because the former are instituted and > >> > run by men who have limited or faulty vision. Nevertheless, there are > >> > moral laws beyond the reach of mere mortals. I am not saying that > >> > humans reach perfection- even Mother Teresa had doubts- as we have > >> > doubts and must struggle and wrestle with our souls. > > >> > On Nov 23, 4:51 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > Heh I remember a few years back when I mentioned this very thing, you > >> > > know the immenance of God pervading throughtout the creation, and our > >> > > young and then much more fiesty Ian, asked, does that include evil, > >> > > and shit and murder? > > >> > > I answerered well yes how could it not? > > >> > > Heresy, well isn't that when a relgious establishment says, no what > >> > > you say does not agree with the accepted doctrine of our particular > >> > > faith! > > >> > > So all-in-all a rather meaningless term. > > >> > > On 23 Nov, 04:36, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Then God would also be evil. I believe that is a heresy. > > >> > > > On Nov 22, 3:24 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > I think it starts with the realization the God is the entirety of > >> > > > > everything. People spend years meditating trying to accomplish > >> this simple > >> > > > > concept. > > >> > > > > Marco you are beginning to sound like a hindu compartalmentlizing > >> all the > >> > > > > aspect of God so they can understand Brahman > >> > > > > Allan > > >> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > Indeed, but the trick is in seeing this huh. > > >> > > > > > On 18 Nov, 11:35, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > > LOL but Lee God is in everything! > >> > > > > > > Allan > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Lee <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > Heh I of course realise that as my particular faith > >> emphasises seeing > >> > > > > > > > God in everything. > > >> > > > > > > > On 17 Nov, 17:28, Pat <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > On 17 Nov, 16:39, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hah My dear Rigsy I swear to your right now that it is > >> complelty > >> > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > other way around for me. > > >> > > > > > > > > > My wife has made a honest man out of me, she veritably > >> saved me > >> > > > > > from > >> > > > > > > > > > myself, and for that I owe her everything. > > >> > > > > > > > > Your debt is to God alone, as He worked THROUGH your wife > >> to do those > >> > > > > > > > > things. It's OK, though, if you thank your wife, as God > >> gets all > >> > > > > > > > > thanks through us as well, even if we don't realise it. > >> ;-) > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 17 Nov, 16:04, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In a way, you do- by making an honest woman out of a > >> bedmate and > >> > > > > > all > >> > > > > > > > > > > the stuff you will need to provide plus kids, etc. But > >> the woman > >> > > > > > must > >> > > > > > > > > > > be calculating to begin with. Somehow, I missed that > >> class but > >> > > > > > find > >> > > > > > > > > > > the whole thing pretty amusing at this point in life. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 9:57 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Haha my dad tells me that we men always pay for sex. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now now that's my dad not me you understand? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 Nov, 15:41, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think all women should be paid for sex? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 8:43 am, archytas < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you lose a few slates from your roof while > >> you had > >> > > > > > turned > >> > > > > > > > into a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > motel Slip? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, it's immoral to argue from holy text in > >> any kind of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fundamentalist manner. We could argue we have > >> been trapped > >> > > > > > in > >> > > > > > > > this > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind of mistaken argument and need to break out > >> of it. > >> > > > > > Science > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably does and at least allows things to be > >> put to the > >> > > > > > test. > >> > > > > > > > Like > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slip I have something of a penchant for being > >> ministered to > >> > > > > > by > >> > > > > > > > women, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > though as yet have not experienced being as a > >> motel yet. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 Nov, 12:42, Pat < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Nov, 17:03, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus said 'Our > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father...', not 'My Father...' Pat > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes in some context such as: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mat 5:16 In the same way, let your light > >> shine before > >> > > > > > men, > >> > > > > > > > that they > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may see your good deeds and praise your > >> FATHER in > >> > > > > > heaven. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mat 6:9 "This, then, is how you should > >> pray: "'Our > >> > > > > > FATHER > >> > > > > > > > in heaven, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hallowed be your name, > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr »
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