Oh yes I saw and read about this--but the farmers over in these countries are really upset because of the temp and enviroment they feel like this is upsetting their growing even on a small scale...over here in America we are about a month ahead of the usual time frame of growing --big scale and small--and in some states they almost can grow all year long --which was not the case in the past....dj
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Basicly it is farming on a small scale but the crops are of high value and > take little space to grow,, Growing mushrooms can be a good example or > speciality herbs. The farms are usually less than 20 acres and able to > support the family.. or that is the idea > Allan > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM, dj Briscoe > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Micro Farming--I will have to study this..get back with you >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> LOL you don't see me farming and if I did it would be in the realm of >>> micro farming, farming has gone the realm of big business, and to be >>> seccessful to day ,, youhave really got to be in intensive micro farming >>> either that or come up eith the money for a vertical green house. >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:33 AM, <ornamentalmind , >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Allan, no apology necessary. People are free in that sense to do what >>>> they wish. Look at all of the smokers! >>>> >>>> For the record, my family had a farm and I grew up with a herd. I >>>> even helped milk on occasion as a wee one. >>>> >>>> This rather romanticized history has little to do with today’s agro- >>>> business. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 24, 9:38 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Sorry Orn Growing up I owned a small herd of 20 pure breed jerseys ,, >>>> > Average butter fat content 5.6 Love my milk.. love my addiction ;o) >>>> > Allan >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, ornamentalmind < >>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > Puss and Blood acceptable in milk: >>>> > >>>> > > I have always been allergic to milk so have ingested little during >>>> my >>>> > > lifetime. Overall, I am glad about that. There is no need to drink >>>> it >>>> > > other than to keep the milk industry going…I still remember the >>>> > > advertisements for the TV program, Disneyland in the 1950s by the >>>> > > American Dairy Association … “You never outgrow your need for milk!” >>>> > >>>> > > Commercials Paid for by the American Dairy Association: >>>> > > The Nelson’s: >>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIoxho5qm5s >>>> > >>>> > > “PSA” >>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzuKhbbkvQ >>>> > >>>> > > Vintage 60s: >>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqhA6mGDy4&NR=1 >>>> > >>>> > > Bobby Sherman: >>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUDo58kueY&NR=1 >>>> > > = >>>> > > = >>>> > > Video NOT financed by the American Dairy Association: >>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXVpvgXo9Q >>>> > >>>> > > On occasion, I drink soy milk today…no puss or blood in that at >>>> least! >>>> > > And, for those who wish to point at calcium MDAs, there are >>>> countless >>>> > > sources and most are healthier. >>>> > >>>> > > By the way, consumer advocacy and voting by pocketbook helped >>>> greatly >>>> > > reduce rBST in US milk products. >>>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin >>>> > >>>> > > On Nov 24, 7:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > My daughter drinks soy milk which has a long shelf life till >>>> opened- I >>>> > > > dislike the thiness of it- though I do keep dry milk for some >>>> baking- >>>> > > > mostly muffins. The expiration dates are "use by' or "best used >>>> by" >>>> > > > and can be deceiving. The freezer is a great rescue of many >>>> items.// I >>>> > > > read the ingredient list of most everything anymore and try to buy >>>> the >>>> > > > least engineered product plus note the country of origin- often >>>> > > > missing in store brands, unfortunately. (There were warnings about >>>> the >>>> > > > lead contamination of cans which has axed several products from my >>>> > > > list. I know Thai street food is divine from one son but where do >>>> they >>>> > > > get their cans- from China? And what about other packaging >>>> materials? >>>> > > > There certainly must be some leeching between the food and >>>> package.) >>>> > > > At any rate, in the best possible take on our food supply, we are >>>> > > > still very fortunate as a country regarding our choices even if >>>> food >>>> > > > is the usual choice for budget belt-tightening. But education and >>>> > > > cooking skills are mandatory if you take nutrition and the care of >>>> > > > others seriously- best to treat it properly, I find. Plus we >>>> cannot >>>> > > > totally ward off our enviornment and its products, can we?// >>>> > > > Unpasteurized cheeses are a no-no during pregnancy.//Sometimes I >>>> > > > wonder...my mother advised Champagne and raw celery when I was >>>> green >>>> > > > during my first pregnancy- fortunately we were too broke to buy >>>> > > > Champagne! :-)// Nothing new under the sun- the dietary laws of >>>> the OT >>>> > > > and Kosher food/meals. A big step forward from barbarian fare of >>>> raw >>>> > > > meat and maggots! >>>> > >>>> > > > On Nov 24, 8:17 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > > Thinking of tainted food,, you can buy pasteurised milk in the >>>> US and >>>> > > it is >>>> > > > > good but since I have been here i go buy a carton of milk off >>>> the >>>> > > shelf >>>> > > > > (not refrigerated) looking at the liter carton at my home and >>>> the >>>> > > > > expiration date is 15 / 03 / 10 that is five full months away, >>>> > >>>> > > > > why is it if in the states the same milk processed has two >>>> differnt and >>>> > > > > radical food safety ,, or is US milk contaminated? >>>> > > > > Allan >>>> > >>>> > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > > > > Me, too- although there are some things I admire in the long >>>> view of >>>> > > > > > China. As for our milk, not sure the hormones, antibiotics, >>>> feed lot >>>> > > > > > filth and inappropriate diet makes our products secure and >>>> safe from >>>> > > > > > long term effects on human consumption. Perhaps that is my >>>> major >>>> > > > > > regret in giving up "ardent spirits" as I felt they acted as >>>> an >>>> > > > > > antiseptic and digestif regarding possible food and water >>>> problems- I >>>> > > > > > must have rationalized this to an art form! lol >>>> > >>>> > > > > > On Nov 24, 3:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > I'm thankful I don't live in China and didn't have anything >>>> to do >>>> > > with >>>> > > > > > > their tainted products. ;-) >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-11-24-china-taintedmilk-death. >>>> .. >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 7:23 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > What are you grateful for? >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > My list of the moment: >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > The arrival of one of my children next week for a few >>>> days. >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > Food- to cook and enjoy. >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > A $30. dental bill yesterday which solved a problem I >>>> thought >>>> > > would >>>> > > > > > > > cost $3,500. 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