“You never outgrow your need for milk!” And, I remember kicking
through cow paddies in the south looking for those tasty blue banded
mushrooms. Cows contribute more than methane.

On Nov 24, 4:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> For the record, my family had a farm and I grew up with a herd.<< Orn
>
> Well finally I realize why you have that "Herd Mentality", you must
> have been in love with Elsie the cow, first crush, no?
>
> Just a joke Orn, don't go ballistic cow paddy on me.
>
> On Nov 24, 5:33 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Allan, no apology necessary. People are free in that sense to do what
> > they wish. Look at all of the smokers!
>
> >  For the record, my family had a farm and I grew up with a herd. I
> > even helped milk on occasion as a wee one.
>
> > This rather romanticized history has little to do with today’s agro-
> > business.
>
> > On Nov 24, 9:38 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Sorry Orn Growing up I owned a small herd of 20 pure breed jerseys ,,
> > > Average butter fat content 5.6   Love my milk.. love my addiction ;o)
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, ornamentalmind 
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > Puss and Blood acceptable in milk:
>
> > > > I have always been allergic to milk so have ingested little during my
> > > > lifetime. Overall, I am glad about that. There is no need to drink it
> > > > other than to keep the milk industry going…I still remember the
> > > > advertisements for the TV program, Disneyland in the 1950s by the
> > > > American Dairy Association … “You never outgrow your need for milk!”
>
> > > > Commercials Paid for by the American Dairy Association:
> > > > The Nelson’s:
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIoxho5qm5s
>
> > > > “PSA”
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzuKhbbkvQ
>
> > > > Vintage 60s:
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqhA6mGDy4&NR=1
>
> > > > Bobby Sherman:
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUDo58kueY&NR=1
> > > > =
> > > > =
> > > > Video NOT financed by the American Dairy Association:
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXVpvgXo9Q
>
> > > > On occasion, I drink soy milk today…no puss or blood in that at least!
> > > > And, for those who wish to point at calcium MDAs, there are countless
> > > > sources and most are healthier.
>
> > > > By the way, consumer advocacy and voting by pocketbook helped greatly
> > > > reduce rBST in US milk products.
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin
>
> > > > On Nov 24, 7:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > My daughter drinks soy milk which has a long shelf life till opened- I
> > > > > dislike the thiness of it- though I do keep dry milk for some baking-
> > > > > mostly muffins. The expiration dates are "use by' or "best used by"
> > > > > and can be deceiving. The freezer is a great rescue of many items.// I
> > > > > read the ingredient list of most everything anymore and try to buy the
> > > > > least engineered product plus note the country of origin- often
> > > > > missing in store brands, unfortunately. (There were warnings about the
> > > > > lead contamination of cans which has axed several products from my
> > > > > list. I know Thai street food is divine from one son but where do they
> > > > > get their cans- from China? And what about other packaging materials?
> > > > > There certainly must be some leeching between the food and package.)
> > > > > At any rate, in the best possible take on our food supply, we are
> > > > > still very fortunate as a country regarding our choices even if food
> > > > > is the usual choice for budget belt-tightening. But education and
> > > > > cooking skills are mandatory if you take nutrition and the care of
> > > > > others seriously- best to treat it properly, I find. Plus we cannot
> > > > > totally ward off our enviornment and its products, can we?//
> > > > > Unpasteurized cheeses are a no-no during pregnancy.//Sometimes I
> > > > > wonder...my mother advised Champagne and raw celery when I was green
> > > > > during my first pregnancy- fortunately we were too broke to buy
> > > > > Champagne! :-)// Nothing new under the sun- the dietary laws of the OT
> > > > > and Kosher food/meals. A big step forward from barbarian fare of raw
> > > > > meat and maggots!
>
> > > > > On Nov 24, 8:17 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Thinking of tainted food,, you can buy pasteurised milk in the US  
> > > > > > and
> > > > it is
> > > > > > good  but since I have been here i go buy a carton of milk off the
> > > > shelf
> > > > > > (not refrigerated)  looking at the liter carton at my home and the
> > > > > > expiration date is 15 / 03 / 10   that is five full months away,
>
> > > > > > why is it if in the states the same milk processed has two differnt 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > radical food safety ,, or is US milk contaminated?
> > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Me, too- although there are some things I admire in the long view 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > China. As for our milk, not sure the hormones, antibiotics, feed 
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > filth and inappropriate diet makes our products secure and safe 
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > long term effects on human consumption. Perhaps that is my major
> > > > > > > regret in giving up "ardent spirits" as I felt they acted as an
> > > > > > > antiseptic and digestif regarding possible food and water 
> > > > > > > problems- I
> > > > > > > must have rationalized this to an art form! lol
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 24, 3:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm thankful I don't live in China and didn't have anything to 
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > their tainted products. ;-)
>
> > > >http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-11-24-china-taintedmilk-death...
>
> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 7:23 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > What are you grateful for?
>
> > > > > > > > > My list of the moment:
>
> > > > > > > > > The arrival of one of my children next week for a few days.
>
> > > > > > > > > Food- to cook and enjoy.
>
> > > > > > > > > A $30. dental bill yesterday which solved a problem I thought
> > > > would
> > > > > > > > > cost $3,500. (I prayed to the right Tooth Fairy!)
>
> > > > > > > > > Health, sobriety and a cheerful mood.
>
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