Micro Farming--I will have to study this..get back with you On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> LOL you don't see me farming and if I did it would be in the realm of > micro farming, farming has gone the realm of big business, and to be > seccessful to day ,, youhave really got to be in intensive micro farming > either that or come up eith the money for a vertical green house. > Allan > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:33 AM, <ornamentalmind , > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Allan, no apology necessary. People are free in that sense to do what >> they wish. Look at all of the smokers! >> >> For the record, my family had a farm and I grew up with a herd. I >> even helped milk on occasion as a wee one. >> >> This rather romanticized history has little to do with today’s agro- >> business. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 24, 9:38 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Sorry Orn Growing up I owned a small herd of 20 pure breed jerseys ,, >> > Average butter fat content 5.6 Love my milk.. love my addiction ;o) >> > Allan >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, ornamentalmind < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Puss and Blood acceptable in milk: >> > >> > > I have always been allergic to milk so have ingested little during my >> > > lifetime. Overall, I am glad about that. There is no need to drink it >> > > other than to keep the milk industry going…I still remember the >> > > advertisements for the TV program, Disneyland in the 1950s by the >> > > American Dairy Association … “You never outgrow your need for milk!” >> > >> > > Commercials Paid for by the American Dairy Association: >> > > The Nelson’s: >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIoxho5qm5s >> > >> > > “PSA” >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzuKhbbkvQ >> > >> > > Vintage 60s: >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqhA6mGDy4&NR=1 >> > >> > > Bobby Sherman: >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUDo58kueY&NR=1 >> > > = >> > > = >> > > Video NOT financed by the American Dairy Association: >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXVpvgXo9Q >> > >> > > On occasion, I drink soy milk today…no puss or blood in that at least! >> > > And, for those who wish to point at calcium MDAs, there are countless >> > > sources and most are healthier. >> > >> > > By the way, consumer advocacy and voting by pocketbook helped greatly >> > > reduce rBST in US milk products. >> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin >> > >> > > On Nov 24, 7:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > My daughter drinks soy milk which has a long shelf life till opened- >> I >> > > > dislike the thiness of it- though I do keep dry milk for some >> baking- >> > > > mostly muffins. The expiration dates are "use by' or "best used by" >> > > > and can be deceiving. The freezer is a great rescue of many items.// >> I >> > > > read the ingredient list of most everything anymore and try to buy >> the >> > > > least engineered product plus note the country of origin- often >> > > > missing in store brands, unfortunately. (There were warnings about >> the >> > > > lead contamination of cans which has axed several products from my >> > > > list. I know Thai street food is divine from one son but where do >> they >> > > > get their cans- from China? And what about other packaging >> materials? >> > > > There certainly must be some leeching between the food and package.) >> > > > At any rate, in the best possible take on our food supply, we are >> > > > still very fortunate as a country regarding our choices even if food >> > > > is the usual choice for budget belt-tightening. But education and >> > > > cooking skills are mandatory if you take nutrition and the care of >> > > > others seriously- best to treat it properly, I find. Plus we cannot >> > > > totally ward off our enviornment and its products, can we?// >> > > > Unpasteurized cheeses are a no-no during pregnancy.//Sometimes I >> > > > wonder...my mother advised Champagne and raw celery when I was green >> > > > during my first pregnancy- fortunately we were too broke to buy >> > > > Champagne! :-)// Nothing new under the sun- the dietary laws of the >> OT >> > > > and Kosher food/meals. A big step forward from barbarian fare of raw >> > > > meat and maggots! >> > >> > > > On Nov 24, 8:17 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > Thinking of tainted food,, you can buy pasteurised milk in the US >> and >> > > it is >> > > > > good but since I have been here i go buy a carton of milk off the >> > > shelf >> > > > > (not refrigerated) looking at the liter carton at my home and the >> > > > > expiration date is 15 / 03 / 10 that is five full months away, >> > >> > > > > why is it if in the states the same milk processed has two >> differnt and >> > > > > radical food safety ,, or is US milk contaminated? >> > > > > Allan >> > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > > Me, too- although there are some things I admire in the long >> view of >> > > > > > China. As for our milk, not sure the hormones, antibiotics, feed >> lot >> > > > > > filth and inappropriate diet makes our products secure and safe >> from >> > > > > > long term effects on human consumption. Perhaps that is my major >> > > > > > regret in giving up "ardent spirits" as I felt they acted as an >> > > > > > antiseptic and digestif regarding possible food and water >> problems- I >> > > > > > must have rationalized this to an art form! lol >> > >> > > > > > On Nov 24, 3:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > I'm thankful I don't live in China and didn't have anything to >> do >> > > with >> > > > > > > their tainted products. ;-) >> > >> > >http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-11-24-china-taintedmilk-death. >> .. >> > >> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 7:23 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > What are you grateful for? >> > >> > > > > > > > My list of the moment: >> > >> > > > > > > > The arrival of one of my children next week for a few days. >> > >> > > > > > > > Food- to cook and enjoy. >> > >> > > > > > > > A $30. dental bill yesterday which solved a problem I >> thought >> > > would >> > > > > > > > cost $3,500. (I prayed to the right Tooth Fairy!) >> > >> > > > > > > > Health, sobriety and a cheerful mood. >> > >> > > > > > > > Others to pray for- even invisible ones.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > -- >> > >> > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google >> > > Groups >> > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. >> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> . >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >> <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> > > > > > . >> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at >> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > ( >> > > > > ) >> > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > -- >> > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > > ""Minds Eye"" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >> <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> > > . >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> >> >> > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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