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On Nov 25, 10:11 pm, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Happy,Happy,Happy,Happy,
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>
> TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKTY,TURKEY
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> TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY,TURKEY..................................­.........
>
> DAYS,AND,DAYS,DAYS,DAYS,DAYS-------May the spritit of Thanksgiving be upon
> you and be thankful for all things.....,
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:26 AM, dj Briscoe 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Oh yes I saw and read about this--but the farmers over in these countries
> > are really upset because of the temp and enviroment they feel like this is
> > upsetting their growing even on a small scale...over here in America we are
> > about a month ahead of the usual time frame of growing --big scale and
> > small--and in some states they almost can grow all year long --which was not
> > the case in the past....dj
>
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> Basicly it is farming on a small scale but the crops are of high value and
> >> take little space to grow,,   Growing mushrooms can be a good example  or
> >> speciality herbs. The farms are usually less than 20 acres and able to
> >> support the family.. or that is the idea
> >> Allan
>
> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM, dj Briscoe <[email protected]
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> Micro Farming--I will have to study this..get back with you
>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM, iam deheretic 
> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >>>> LOL  you don't see me farming and if I did it would be in the realm of
> >>>> micro farming, farming has gone the realm of big business, and to be
> >>>> seccessful to day ,, youhave really got to be in intensive micro farming
> >>>> either that or come up eith the money for a vertical green house.
> >>>> Allan
>
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:33 AM, <ornamentalmind ,
> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Allan, no apology necessary. People are free in that sense to do what
> >>>>> they wish. Look at all of the smokers!
>
> >>>>>  For the record, my family had a farm and I grew up with a herd. I
> >>>>> even helped milk on occasion as a wee one.
>
> >>>>> This rather romanticized history has little to do with today’s agro-
> >>>>> business.
>
> >>>>> On Nov 24, 9:38 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> > Sorry Orn Growing up I owned a small herd of 20 pure breed jerseys ,,
> >>>>> > Average butter fat content 5.6   Love my milk.. love my addiction ;o)
> >>>>> > Allan
>
> >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, ornamentalmind <
> >>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>
> >>>>> > > Puss and Blood acceptable in milk:
>
> >>>>> > > I have always been allergic to milk so have ingested little during
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> > > lifetime. Overall, I am glad about that. There is no need to drink
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> > > other than to keep the milk industry going…I still remember the
> >>>>> > > advertisements for the TV program, Disneyland in the 1950s by the
> >>>>> > > American Dairy Association … “You never outgrow your need for
> >>>>> milk!”
>
> >>>>> > > Commercials Paid for by the American Dairy Association:
> >>>>> > > The Nelson’s:
> >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIoxho5qm5s
>
> >>>>> > > “PSA”
> >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzuKhbbkvQ
>
> >>>>> > > Vintage 60s:
> >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqhA6mGDy4&NR=1
>
> >>>>> > > Bobby Sherman:
> >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUDo58kueY&NR=1
> >>>>> > > =
> >>>>> > > =
> >>>>> > > Video NOT financed by the American Dairy Association:
> >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXVpvgXo9Q
>
> >>>>> > > On occasion, I drink soy milk today…no puss or blood in that at
> >>>>> least!
> >>>>> > > And, for those who wish to point at calcium MDAs, there are
> >>>>> countless
> >>>>> > > sources and most are healthier.
>
> >>>>> > > By the way, consumer advocacy and voting by pocketbook helped
> >>>>> greatly
> >>>>> > > reduce rBST in US milk products.
> >>>>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin
>
> >>>>> > > On Nov 24, 7:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> > > > My daughter drinks soy milk which has a long shelf life till
> >>>>> opened- I
> >>>>> > > > dislike the thiness of it- though I do keep dry milk for some
> >>>>> baking-
> >>>>> > > > mostly muffins. The expiration dates are "use by' or "best used
> >>>>> by"
> >>>>> > > > and can be deceiving. The freezer is a great rescue of many
> >>>>> items.// I
> >>>>> > > > read the ingredient list of most everything anymore and try to
> >>>>> buy the
> >>>>> > > > least engineered product plus note the country of origin- often
> >>>>> > > > missing in store brands, unfortunately. (There were warnings
> >>>>> about the
> >>>>> > > > lead contamination of cans which has axed several products from
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> > > > list. I know Thai street food is divine from one son but where do
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> > > > get their cans- from China? And what about other packaging
> >>>>> materials?
> >>>>> > > > There certainly must be some leeching between the food and
> >>>>> package.)
> >>>>> > > > At any rate, in the best possible take on our food supply, we are
> >>>>> > > > still very fortunate as a country regarding our choices even if
> >>>>> food
> >>>>> > > > is the usual choice for budget belt-tightening. But education and
> >>>>> > > > cooking skills are mandatory if you take nutrition and the care
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> > > > others seriously- best to treat it properly, I find. Plus we
> >>>>> cannot
> >>>>> > > > totally ward off our enviornment and its products, can we?//
> >>>>> > > > Unpasteurized cheeses are a no-no during pregnancy.//Sometimes I
> >>>>> > > > wonder...my mother advised Champagne and raw celery when I was
> >>>>> green
> >>>>> > > > during my first pregnancy- fortunately we were too broke to buy
> >>>>> > > > Champagne! :-)// Nothing new under the sun- the dietary laws of
> >>>>> the OT
> >>>>> > > > and Kosher food/meals. A big step forward from barbarian fare of
> >>>>> raw
> >>>>> > > > meat and maggots!
>
> >>>>> > > > On Nov 24, 8:17 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>> > > > > Thinking of tainted food,, you can buy pasteurised milk in the
> >>>>> US  and
> >>>>> > > it is
> >>>>> > > > > good  but since I have been here i go buy a carton of milk off
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> > > shelf
> >>>>> > > > > (not refrigerated)  looking at the liter carton at my home and
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> > > > > expiration date is 15 / 03 / 10   that is five full months
> >>>>> away,
>
> >>>>> > > > > why is it if in the states the same milk processed has two
> >>>>> differnt and
> >>>>> > > > > radical food safety ,, or is US milk contaminated?
> >>>>> > > > > Allan
>
> >>>>> > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> > > > > > Me, too- although there are some things I admire in the long
> >>>>> view of
> >>>>> > > > > > China. As for our milk, not sure the hormones, antibiotics,
> >>>>> feed lot
> >>>>> > > > > > filth and inappropriate diet makes our products secure and
> >>>>> safe from
> >>>>> > > > > > long term effects on human consumption. Perhaps that is my
> >>>>> major
> >>>>> > > > > > regret in giving up "ardent spirits" as I felt they acted as
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> > > > > > antiseptic and digestif regarding possible food and water
> >>>>> problems- I
> >>>>> > > > > > must have rationalized this to an art form! lol
>
> >>>>> > > > > > On Nov 24, 3:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> > > > > > > I'm thankful I don't live in China and didn't have anything
> >>>>> to do
> >>>>> > > with
> >>>>> > > > > > > their tainted products. ;-)
>
> >>>>>http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-11-24-china-taintedmilk-death.
> >>>>> ..
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 7:23 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > What are you grateful for?
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > My list of the moment:
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > The arrival of one of my children next week for a few
> >>>>> days.
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > Food- to cook and enjoy.
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > A $30. dental bill yesterday which solved a problem I
> >>>>> thought
> >>>>> > > would
> >>>>> > > > > > > > cost $3,500. (I prayed to the right Tooth Fairy!)
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > Health, sobriety and a cheerful mood.
>
> >>>>> > > > > > > > Others to pray for- even invisible ones.- Hide quoted
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