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DAYS,AND,DAYS,DAYS,DAYS,DAYS-------May the spritit of Thanksgiving be upon you and be thankful for all things....., On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:26 AM, dj Briscoe <[email protected]>wrote: > Oh yes I saw and read about this--but the farmers over in these countries > are really upset because of the temp and enviroment they feel like this is > upsetting their growing even on a small scale...over here in America we are > about a month ahead of the usual time frame of growing --big scale and > small--and in some states they almost can grow all year long --which was not > the case in the past....dj > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Basicly it is farming on a small scale but the crops are of high value and >> take little space to grow,, Growing mushrooms can be a good example or >> speciality herbs. The farms are usually less than 20 acres and able to >> support the family.. or that is the idea >> Allan >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM, dj Briscoe <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Micro Farming--I will have to study this..get back with you >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> LOL you don't see me farming and if I did it would be in the realm of >>>> micro farming, farming has gone the realm of big business, and to be >>>> seccessful to day ,, youhave really got to be in intensive micro farming >>>> either that or come up eith the money for a vertical green house. >>>> Allan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:33 AM, <ornamentalmind , >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Allan, no apology necessary. People are free in that sense to do what >>>>> they wish. Look at all of the smokers! >>>>> >>>>> For the record, my family had a farm and I grew up with a herd. I >>>>> even helped milk on occasion as a wee one. >>>>> >>>>> This rather romanticized history has little to do with today’s agro- >>>>> business. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 24, 9:38 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Sorry Orn Growing up I owned a small herd of 20 pure breed jerseys ,, >>>>> > Average butter fat content 5.6 Love my milk.. love my addiction ;o) >>>>> > Allan >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, ornamentalmind < >>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > Puss and Blood acceptable in milk: >>>>> > >>>>> > > I have always been allergic to milk so have ingested little during >>>>> my >>>>> > > lifetime. Overall, I am glad about that. There is no need to drink >>>>> it >>>>> > > other than to keep the milk industry going…I still remember the >>>>> > > advertisements for the TV program, Disneyland in the 1950s by the >>>>> > > American Dairy Association … “You never outgrow your need for >>>>> milk!” >>>>> > >>>>> > > Commercials Paid for by the American Dairy Association: >>>>> > > The Nelson’s: >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIoxho5qm5s >>>>> > >>>>> > > “PSA” >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzuKhbbkvQ >>>>> > >>>>> > > Vintage 60s: >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqhA6mGDy4&NR=1 >>>>> > >>>>> > > Bobby Sherman: >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUDo58kueY&NR=1 >>>>> > > = >>>>> > > = >>>>> > > Video NOT financed by the American Dairy Association: >>>>> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXVpvgXo9Q >>>>> > >>>>> > > On occasion, I drink soy milk today…no puss or blood in that at >>>>> least! >>>>> > > And, for those who wish to point at calcium MDAs, there are >>>>> countless >>>>> > > sources and most are healthier. >>>>> > >>>>> > > By the way, consumer advocacy and voting by pocketbook helped >>>>> greatly >>>>> > > reduce rBST in US milk products. >>>>> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin >>>>> > >>>>> > > On Nov 24, 7:20 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > > > My daughter drinks soy milk which has a long shelf life till >>>>> opened- I >>>>> > > > dislike the thiness of it- though I do keep dry milk for some >>>>> baking- >>>>> > > > mostly muffins. The expiration dates are "use by' or "best used >>>>> by" >>>>> > > > and can be deceiving. The freezer is a great rescue of many >>>>> items.// I >>>>> > > > read the ingredient list of most everything anymore and try to >>>>> buy the >>>>> > > > least engineered product plus note the country of origin- often >>>>> > > > missing in store brands, unfortunately. (There were warnings >>>>> about the >>>>> > > > lead contamination of cans which has axed several products from >>>>> my >>>>> > > > list. I know Thai street food is divine from one son but where do >>>>> they >>>>> > > > get their cans- from China? And what about other packaging >>>>> materials? >>>>> > > > There certainly must be some leeching between the food and >>>>> package.) >>>>> > > > At any rate, in the best possible take on our food supply, we are >>>>> > > > still very fortunate as a country regarding our choices even if >>>>> food >>>>> > > > is the usual choice for budget belt-tightening. But education and >>>>> > > > cooking skills are mandatory if you take nutrition and the care >>>>> of >>>>> > > > others seriously- best to treat it properly, I find. Plus we >>>>> cannot >>>>> > > > totally ward off our enviornment and its products, can we?// >>>>> > > > Unpasteurized cheeses are a no-no during pregnancy.//Sometimes I >>>>> > > > wonder...my mother advised Champagne and raw celery when I was >>>>> green >>>>> > > > during my first pregnancy- fortunately we were too broke to buy >>>>> > > > Champagne! :-)// Nothing new under the sun- the dietary laws of >>>>> the OT >>>>> > > > and Kosher food/meals. A big step forward from barbarian fare of >>>>> raw >>>>> > > > meat and maggots! >>>>> > >>>>> > > > On Nov 24, 8:17 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > Thinking of tainted food,, you can buy pasteurised milk in the >>>>> US and >>>>> > > it is >>>>> > > > > good but since I have been here i go buy a carton of milk off >>>>> the >>>>> > > shelf >>>>> > > > > (not refrigerated) looking at the liter carton at my home and >>>>> the >>>>> > > > > expiration date is 15 / 03 / 10 that is five full months >>>>> away, >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > why is it if in the states the same milk processed has two >>>>> differnt and >>>>> > > > > radical food safety ,, or is US milk contaminated? >>>>> > > > > Allan >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > Me, too- although there are some things I admire in the long >>>>> view of >>>>> > > > > > China. As for our milk, not sure the hormones, antibiotics, >>>>> feed lot >>>>> > > > > > filth and inappropriate diet makes our products secure and >>>>> safe from >>>>> > > > > > long term effects on human consumption. Perhaps that is my >>>>> major >>>>> > > > > > regret in giving up "ardent spirits" as I felt they acted as >>>>> an >>>>> > > > > > antiseptic and digestif regarding possible food and water >>>>> problems- I >>>>> > > > > > must have rationalized this to an art form! lol >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > On Nov 24, 3:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > I'm thankful I don't live in China and didn't have anything >>>>> to do >>>>> > > with >>>>> > > > > > > their tainted products. ;-) >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-11-24-china-taintedmilk-death. >>>>> .. >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 7:23 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > What are you grateful for? >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > My list of the moment: >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > The arrival of one of my children next week for a few >>>>> days. >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > Food- to cook and enjoy. >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > A $30. dental bill yesterday which solved a problem I >>>>> thought >>>>> > > would >>>>> > > > > > > > cost $3,500. (I prayed to the right Tooth Fairy!) >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > Health, sobriety and a cheerful mood. >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > Others to pray for- even invisible ones.- Hide quoted >>>>> text - >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > - Show quoted text - >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > -- >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>> Google >>>>> > > Groups >>>>> > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>>>> <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> > > > > > . >>>>> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > -- >>>>> > > > > ( >>>>> > > > > ) >>>>> > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>>> > >>>>> > > > - Show quoted text - >>>>> > >>>>> > > -- >>>>> > >>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> > > ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>>>> <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> > > . >>>>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > ( >>>>> > ) >>>>> > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >>>>> > >>>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ( >>>> ) >>>> I_D Allan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> I_D Allan >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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