In the immortal words of Mr. Zimmerman: “There ain’t too much I can say about this song except that the answer is blowing in the wind. It ain’t in no book or movie or TV show or discussion group. Man, it’s in the wind—and it’s blowing in the wind. Too many of these hip people are telling me where the answer is but oh I won’t believe that. I still say it’s in the wind and just like a restless piece of paper it’s got to come down some ...But the only trouble is that no one picks up the answer when it comes down so not too many people get to see and know ...and then it flies away I still say that some of the biggest criminals are those that turn their heads away when they see wrong and know it’s wrong. I’m only 21 years old and I know that there’s been too many ...You people over 21, you’re older and smarter.” -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin'_in_the_Wind Of course, even here, years later he freely admits to having ripped off the song from the preceding, by over a century, spiritual “No More Auction Block”. – ibid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIZ5t1Tu24 On Dec 5, 2:02 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Cops don't generally get mown down over here of course, but they have > lost a lot of respect since I left the job (no doubt because the > impact of my heroic efforts is no longer felt)! The problem here is > that the forces are no good at what they should be doing and a pain in > everyone's butt on stuff they shouldn't be doing (much as Slip > suggests). We need our police to have more powers to deal with > scrotes and other crooks and at the same time for them to be open to > proper oversight and be much better at human rights. I'm afraid the > decisions on this are in the hands of incompetents and self-interested > creeps - politicians and do-gooders. "Crime" has become a political > issue because our politicians are so devoid of ideas they manipulate > us with promises to crack down. 'Tough on crime, tough on the causes > of crime' was the Blair slogan - out of the mouth of a war criminal. > > Our local cops did a burglary sweep last month and nicked about 300 > such cretins across Bolton, a town of about 250,000. Good on them, > yet one has to wonder, with the gaols full, more young kids locked up > than ever before and crime falling to 'new lows' just how the **** > there can be so many crooks just lying around waiting to be > processed. I would guess, Slip, that the UK forces (50-odd) are > basically unarmed and passive - we don't see armed cops much except at > airports. Ask anyone having to live near scrotes and they'll tell you > the cops are passive! Incompetence and bungling is still the rule > here, with odd exceptions. I wish for radical reform, but also wonder > if we just shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie! > > Years ago, a mate of mine I met in LA whilst over there to escort a > prisoner back here, got into a load of disciplinary problems as a > cop. He fell over an armed robbery whilst off duty, having nipped out > for some fags in the early morning on a day off. He'd forgotten his > gun, but smacked the mugger on the head with a milk bottle (needed > coffee with his ciggies) and arrested him. Over here, I'd have got a > commendation. He got a discipline charge for being unarmed off-duty. > At around this time, our government disarmed the RUC (then N. > Ireland's police force) and got a load of them killed as a result in > 'the troubles'. At least the poor sods in this case hadn't been set > up by their own government! One case I dealt with in NI involved a > shoot out in which the illegal guns were mostly held by the cops (they > kept shotguns at the time, expecting the dread call of IRA-linked > turds). At the height of this very serious terrorism, our mainland > cops were largely unarmed. Now they sometimes bristle with weaponry, > with a much reduced threat, kill Brazilians for no reason and shoot up > honest Islamic families. Never easy answers in these areas. > > I'd start, should I be awarded the mission by whoever runs the country > (CIA?), by disestablishing the hold of the legal profession over law > and running 'scrote courts' as concurrently as possible with the > crimes committed, put the guilty in cheap huts surrounded by barbed > wire ... and establish decent public transport based on Internet > ordered cars in order to make traffic wardens unnecessary (due to lack > of traffic). If most of our senior cops died accidentally overnight, > I suspect we'd have the resources for some decent policing. Judges > and lawyers should be subject to a cull (100%) and replaced by people > who have done real jobs. Crooks undergoing rehabilitation should have > to live near the people who let them out or gave them short > sentences. Wages in the legal system should be linked to average > wages ... zzzz ... but seriously we either go radical or just shut up. > > On 4 Dec, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I have to say it has always been a bad deal for police, the alienation > > by a large segment of society and the injuries sustained by irritable > > suspects. Thousands of police are assaulted by suspects every year, > > bitten, spit at, kicked and punched for no reason other than doing > > their job, performing a service for society. > > It is true that some of the worst people in society and many who hate > > police are the first to yell "Call the Police" when they have a > > problem. > > I do see an underlying problem that should be changed, ie: Stop using > > police as back door tax collectors who basically spend much of their > > time issuing citations for petty violations, which is one of the > > reasons people hate them, that stupid ticket for a vehicle sticker or > > that ridiculous seat belt law. I'm driving 15 mph, why do I need a > > seat belt? > > Police should be a task force to address crime and not waste time > > filling out forms. They should be out catching criminals instead of > > taking an accident report. There could be an unarmed passive task > > force to go out and take care of those things. > > > On Dec 2, 12:40 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sunday morning, when most of us were getting our coffee and > > > preparing to watch an NFL pregame show, 4 officers of the law were > > > executed by a rapist...ooops...excuse my horrible and evil > > > language...ummmm...sex offender... ummm ya.... > > > anyway, he was out of jail on bail. > > > Three men and a woman(all officers) were murdered in cold blood, in an > > > assault that was very clearly planned out. > > > >http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cops_shot_dead_in_washington_co... > > > > This fashion of crime was committed a month ago, almost to the day, in > > > Seattle. On Halloween night a wanna-be gang-banger walked up to a car > > > that was in the process of protecting our children on a night when all > > > too many are injured or killed out of pure negligence on the part of > > > drivers. It has been shown, year after year and decade after decade, > > > that having a marked vehicle with REAL officers has a decided > > > difference in injury and mortality rates at times and on dates when > > > children or pedestrians are especially at risk, and it appears that > > > this person counted on that fact. Both officers in the car were shot > > > and the veteran officer was a victim of murder. I, and everyone i > > > know, are thankful that the passenger and junior officer survived with > > > little more than uncomfortable wounds. > > > > The truly terrible consequence of these acts are not the deaths and > > > woundings, however. The extremely disheartening fact is that, as more > > > and more law enforcement professionals are feeling separated from the > > > community that expects them to magically appear seconds after > > > requesting help, these disgusting murderers make sure that officers of > > > the law can NOT be at ease in public. I'm not a fan of cops, and I > > > haven't been for decades. But the most important aspect of city life - > > > even the L.A. gangs know this- we must allow the cops to walk freely > > > and comfortably among all of society. They may be an enemy to drug > > > users/pushers, whores/pimps, homeless/hitchhikers, poor/minority; but > > > there are times where anyone should feel able to approach them with > > > problems and/or questions. > > > > The only lasting legacy that these disgusting murderers leave is that > > > the nation responsible for allowing freedom of assembly and speech, > > > will allow less assembly and speech. The nation that encouraged > > > officers to dine and socialise with "civilians", will no longer be > > > known for such actions. Millions of Americans eat at restaurants > > > frequented by cops...expect to be observed if not made uncomfortable. > > > At bars frequented by cops... expect to be held up for every insult, > > > regardless how minor and unintended. > > > > I have respect for some officers and know they won't change, but all > > > too many are now going to view each and every civilian as a potential > > > murderer/target.Everyone needs to be extremely vocal in their support > > > for local law enforcement. Even people that have had bad experiences > > > or engage in illegal activities need to be telling cops how much they > > > are needed; whether or not you like cops in general, they are > > > necessary for your own comfort and enterprise.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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