P.S. Mr.Fiddler..I don't care what you do..or say.. On Dec 6, 4:54 pm, dj <[email protected]> wrote: > Night Hawks ok..never seen it...(let me add I hate Gangs)........(this > is about the topic)(the gangs)... > > On Dec 6, 1:43 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > DJ, see:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082817/ > > > On Dec 6, 9:01 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't know who DeDilva is but I loved this movie too. > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjptQSfuTy8 > > > > -Don > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:12 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > When presented with the likes of a ‘Wulfgar’, if forced into the role > > > > of DeSilva, I’m not sure of what my actions might be. However, since I > > > > greatly appreciate (and watch over and over) “DeDilva’s” film, “First > > > > Blood”, my guess is that I would do the same. > > > > > On Dec 6, 3:00 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Serpico is long forgotten. The good cops don't realise what damage > > > >> the bad ones are doing. The issues are much wider than the police - > > > >> this is to do with a lack of respect for those not seen to have > > > >> 'power'. > > > > >> On 6 Dec, 02:38, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > I geuss your right...uhmm > > > > >> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, ornamentalmind > > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > > Quite true fran. The term serendipity doesn't even touch it. > > > > >> > > On Dec 5, 6:25 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > Interesting to see you quoting Bob, Orn. One of his oldest > > > >> > > > friends, > > > >> > > > Liam Clancy, died yesterday: > > > > >> > > >http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/obituaries/2009/1205/122426014598... > > > > >> > > > It was probably Clancy whom Dylan heard singing Dominic Beehan's > > > >> > > > ballad, "The Patriot Game." Another song he ripped off - he > > > >> > > > called his > > > >> > > > version, "With God on our Side" (most recently used to good > > > >> > > > effect by > > > >> > > > Oliver Stone as the conclusion to his film "W"). Wow, isn't the > > > >> > > > whole > > > >> > > > world just full of amazing connections ... :-) > > > > >> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRao09EgPs&ytsession=P0oPMPOxf1oUx1u_... > > > > >> > > > Francis > > > > >> > > > On 5 Dez., 12:46, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > In the immortal words of Mr. Zimmerman: “There ain’t too much > > > >> > > > > I can > > > >> > > > > say about this song except that the answer is blowing in the > > > >> > > > > wind. It > > > >> > > > > ain’t in no book or movie or TV show or discussion group. Man, > > > >> > > > > it’s in > > > >> > > > > the wind—and it’s blowing in the wind. Too many of these hip > > > >> > > > > people > > > >> > > > > are telling me where the answer is but oh I won’t believe > > > >> > > > > that. I > > > >> > > > > still say it’s in the wind and just like a restless piece of > > > >> > > > > paper > > > >> > > > > it’s got to come down some ...But the only trouble is that no > > > >> > > > > one > > > >> > > > > picks up the answer when it comes down so not too many people > > > >> > > > > get to > > > >> > > > > see and know ...and then it flies away I still say that some > > > >> > > > > of the > > > >> > > > > biggest criminals are those that turn their heads away when > > > >> > > > > they see > > > >> > > > > wrong and know it’s wrong. I’m only 21 years old and I know > > > >> > > > > that > > > >> > > > > there’s been too many ...You people over 21, you’re older and > > > >> > > > > smarter.” - > > > > >> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin'_in_the_Wind > > > > >> > > > > Of course, even here, years later he freely admits to having > > > >> > > > > ripped > > > >> > > > > off the song from the preceding, by over a century, spiritual > > > >> > > > > “No More > > > >> > > > > Auction Block”. – ibid > > > > >> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIZ5t1Tu24 > > > > >> > > > > On Dec 5, 2:02 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > Cops don't generally get mown down over here of course, but > > > >> > > > > > they have > > > >> > > > > > lost a lot of respect since I left the job (no doubt because > > > >> > > > > > the > > > >> > > > > > impact of my heroic efforts is no longer felt)! The problem > > > >> > > > > > here is > > > >> > > > > > that the forces are no good at what they should be doing and > > > >> > > > > > a pain > > > >> > > in > > > >> > > > > > everyone's butt on stuff they shouldn't be doing (much as > > > >> > > > > > Slip > > > >> > > > > > suggests). We need our police to have more powers to deal > > > >> > > > > > with > > > >> > > > > > scrotes and other crooks and at the same time for them to be > > > >> > > > > > open to > > > >> > > > > > proper oversight and be much better at human rights. I'm > > > >> > > > > > afraid the > > > >> > > > > > decisions on this are in the hands of incompetents and > > > >> > > self-interested > > > >> > > > > > creeps - politicians and do-gooders. "Crime" has become a > > > >> > > > > > political > > > >> > > > > > issue because our politicians are so devoid of ideas they > > > >> > > > > > manipulate > > > >> > > > > > us with promises to crack down. 'Tough on crime, tough on > > > >> > > > > > the causes > > > >> > > > > > of crime' was the Blair slogan - out of the mouth of a war > > > >> > > > > > criminal. > > > > >> > > > > > Our local cops did a burglary sweep last month and nicked > > > >> > > > > > about 300 > > > >> > > > > > such cretins across Bolton, a town of about 250,000. Good > > > >> > > > > > on them, > > > >> > > > > > yet one has to wonder, with the gaols full, more young kids > > > >> > > > > > locked up > > > >> > > > > > than ever before and crime falling to 'new lows' just how > > > >> > > > > > the **** > > > >> > > > > > there can be so many crooks just lying around waiting to be > > > >> > > > > > processed. I would guess, Slip, that the UK forces (50-odd) > > > >> > > > > > are > > > >> > > > > > basically unarmed and passive - we don't see armed cops much > > > >> > > > > > except > > > >> > > at > > > >> > > > > > airports. Ask anyone having to live near scrotes and > > > >> > > > > > they'll tell > > > >> > > you > > > >> > > > > > the cops are passive! Incompetence and bungling is still > > > >> > > > > > the rule > > > >> > > > > > here, with odd exceptions. I wish for radical reform, but > > > >> > > > > > also > > > >> > > wonder > > > >> > > > > > if we just shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie! > > > > >> > > > > > Years ago, a mate of mine I met in LA whilst over there to > > > >> > > > > > escort a > > > >> > > > > > prisoner back here, got into a load of disciplinary problems > > > >> > > > > > as a > > > >> > > > > > cop. He fell over an armed robbery whilst off duty, having > > > >> > > > > > nipped > > > >> > > out > > > >> > > > > > for some fags in the early morning on a day off. He'd > > > >> > > > > > forgotten his > > > >> > > > > > gun, but smacked the mugger on the head with a milk bottle > > > >> > > > > > (needed > > > >> > > > > > coffee with his ciggies) and arrested him. Over here, I'd > > > >> > > > > > have got a > > > >> > > > > > commendation. He got a discipline charge for being unarmed > > > >> > > > > > off-duty. > > > >> > > > > > At around this time, our government disarmed the RUC (then N. > > > >> > > > > > Ireland's police force) and got a load of them killed as a > > > >> > > > > > result in > > > >> > > > > > 'the troubles'. At least the poor sods in this case hadn't > > > >> > > > > > been set > > > >> > > > > > up by their own government! One case I dealt with in NI > > > >> > > > > > involved a > > > >> > > > > > shoot out in which the illegal guns were mostly held by the > > > >> > > > > > cops > > > >> > > (they > > > >> > > > > > kept shotguns at the time, expecting the dread call of > > > >> > > > > > IRA-linked > > > >> > > > > > turds). At the height of this very serious terrorism, our > > > >> > > > > > mainland > > > >> > > > > > cops were largely unarmed. Now they sometimes bristle with > > > >> > > > > > weaponry, > > > >> > > > > > with a much reduced threat, kill Brazilians for no reason > > > >> > > > > > and shoot > > > >> > > up > > > >> > > > > > honest Islamic families. Never easy answers in these areas. > > > > >> > > > > > I'd start, should I be awarded the mission by whoever runs > > > >> > > > > > the > > > >> > > country > > > >> > > > > > (CIA?), by disestablishing the hold of the legal profession > > > >> > > > > > over law > > > >> > > > > > and running 'scrote courts' as concurrently as possible with > > > >> > > > > > the > > > >> > > > > > crimes committed, put the guilty in cheap huts surrounded by > > > >> > > > > > barbed > > > >> > > > > > wire ... and establish decent public transport based on > > > >> > > > > > Internet > > > >> > > > > > ordered cars in order to make traffic wardens unnecessary > > > >> > > > > > (due to > > > >> > > lack > > > >> > > > > > of traffic). If most of our senior cops died accidentally > > > >> > > > > > overnight, > > > >> > > > > > I suspect we'd have the resources for some decent policing. > > > >> > > > > > Judges > > > >> > > > > > and lawyers should be subject to a cull (100%) and replaced > > > >> > > > > > by people > > > >> > > > > > who have done real jobs. Crooks undergoing rehabilitation > > > >> > > > > > should > > > >> > > have > > > >> > > > > > to live near the people who let them out or gave them short > > > >> > > > > > sentences. Wages in the legal system should be linked to > > > >> > > > > > average > > > >> > > > > > wages ... zzzz ... but seriously we either go radical or > > > >> > > > > > just shut > > > >> > > up. > > > > >> > > > > > On 4 Dec, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > I have to say it has always been a bad deal for police, the > > > >> > > alienation > > > >> > > > > > > by a large segment of society and the injuries sustained by > > > >> > > irritable > > > >> > > > > > > suspects. Thousands of police are assaulted by suspects > > > >> > > > > > > every > > > >> > > year, > > > >> > > > > > > bitten, spit at, kicked and punched for no reason other > > > >> > > > > > > than doing > > > >> > > > > > > their job, performing a service for society. > > > >> > > > > > > It is true that some of the worst people in society and > > > >> > > > > > > many who > > > >> > > hate > > > >> > > > > > > police are the first to yell "Call the Police" when they > > > >> > > > > > > have a > > > >> > > > > > > problem. > > > >> > > > > > > I do see an underlying problem that should be changed, ie: > > > >> > > > > > > Stop > > > >> > > using > > > >> > > > > > > police as back door tax collectors who basically spend > > > >> > > > > > > much of > > > >> > > their > > > >> > > > > > > time issuing citations for petty violations, which is one > > > >> > > > > > > of the > > > >> > > > > > > reasons people hate them, that stupid ticket for a vehicle > > > >> > > > > > > sticker > > > >> > > or > > > >> > > > > > > that ridiculous seat belt law. I'm driving 15 mph, why do > > > >> > > > > > > I need a > > > >> > > > > > > seat belt? > > > >> > > > > > > Police should be a task force to address crime and not > > > >> > > > > > > waste time > > > >> > > > > > > filling out forms. They should be out catching > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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