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On Dec 6, 9:01 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know who DeDilva is but I loved this movie too.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjptQSfuTy8
>
> -Don
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:12 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > When presented with the likes of a ‘Wulfgar’, if forced into the role
> > of DeSilva, I’m not sure of what my actions might be. However, since I
> > greatly appreciate (and watch over and over) “DeDilva’s” film, “First
> > Blood”, my guess is that I would do the same.
>
> > On Dec 6, 3:00 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Serpico is long forgotten.  The good cops don't realise what damage
> >> the bad ones are doing.  The issues are much wider than the police -
> >> this is to do with a lack of respect for those not seen to have
> >> 'power'.
>
> >> On 6 Dec, 02:38, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > I geuss your right...uhmm
>
> >> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, ornamentalmind 
> >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> > > Quite true fran. The term serendipity doesn't even touch it.
>
> >> > > On Dec 5, 6:25 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > > Interesting to see you quoting Bob, Orn. One of his oldest friends,
> >> > > > Liam Clancy, died yesterday:
>
> >> > > >http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/obituaries/2009/1205/122426014598...
>
> >> > > > It was probably Clancy whom Dylan heard singing Dominic Beehan's
> >> > > > ballad, "The Patriot Game." Another song he ripped off - he called 
> >> > > > his
> >> > > > version, "With God on our Side" (most recently used to good effect by
> >> > > > Oliver Stone as the conclusion to his film "W"). Wow, isn't the whole
> >> > > > world just full of amazing connections ... :-)
>
> >> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRao09EgPs&ytsession=P0oPMPOxf1oUx1u_...
>
> >> > > > Francis
>
> >> > > > On 5 Dez., 12:46, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > In the immortal words of Mr. Zimmerman: “There ain’t too much I can
> >> > > > > say about this song except that the answer is blowing in the wind. 
> >> > > > > It
> >> > > > > ain’t in no book or movie or TV show or discussion group. Man, 
> >> > > > > it’s in
> >> > > > > the wind—and it’s blowing in the wind. Too many of these hip people
> >> > > > > are telling me where the answer is but oh I won’t believe that. I
> >> > > > > still say it’s in the wind and just like a restless piece of paper
> >> > > > > it’s got to come down some  ...But the only trouble is that no one
> >> > > > > picks up the answer when it comes down so not too many people get 
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > see and know ...and then it flies away I still say that some of the
> >> > > > > biggest criminals are those that turn their heads away when they 
> >> > > > > see
> >> > > > > wrong and know it’s wrong. I’m only 21 years old and I know that
> >> > > > > there’s been too many  ...You people over 21, you’re older and
> >> > > > > smarter.” -
>
> >> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin'_in_the_Wind
>
> >> > > > > Of course, even here, years later he freely admits to having ripped
> >> > > > > off the song from the preceding, by over a century, spiritual “No 
> >> > > > > More
> >> > > > > Auction Block”. – ibid
>
> >> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIZ5t1Tu24
>
> >> > > > > On Dec 5, 2:02 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Cops don't generally get mown down over here of course, but they 
> >> > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > lost a lot of respect since I left the job (no doubt because the
> >> > > > > > impact of my heroic efforts is no longer felt)!  The problem 
> >> > > > > > here is
> >> > > > > > that the forces are no good at what they should be doing and a 
> >> > > > > > pain
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > > everyone's butt on stuff they shouldn't be doing (much as Slip
> >> > > > > > suggests).  We need our police to have more powers to deal with
> >> > > > > > scrotes and other crooks and at the same time for them to be 
> >> > > > > > open to
> >> > > > > > proper oversight and be much better at human rights.  I'm afraid 
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > decisions on this are in the hands of incompetents and
> >> > > self-interested
> >> > > > > > creeps - politicians and do-gooders.  "Crime" has become a 
> >> > > > > > political
> >> > > > > > issue because our politicians are so devoid of ideas they 
> >> > > > > > manipulate
> >> > > > > > us with promises to crack down.  'Tough on crime, tough on the 
> >> > > > > > causes
> >> > > > > > of crime' was the Blair slogan - out of the mouth of a war 
> >> > > > > > criminal.
>
> >> > > > > > Our local cops did a burglary sweep last month and nicked about 
> >> > > > > > 300
> >> > > > > > such cretins across Bolton, a town of about 250,000.  Good on 
> >> > > > > > them,
> >> > > > > > yet one has to wonder, with the gaols full, more young kids 
> >> > > > > > locked up
> >> > > > > > than ever before and crime falling to 'new lows' just how the 
> >> > > > > > ****
> >> > > > > > there can be so many crooks just lying around waiting to be
> >> > > > > > processed.  I would guess, Slip, that the UK forces (50-odd) are
> >> > > > > > basically unarmed and passive - we don't see armed cops much 
> >> > > > > > except
> >> > > at
> >> > > > > > airports.  Ask anyone having to live near scrotes and they'll 
> >> > > > > > tell
> >> > > you
> >> > > > > > the cops are passive!  Incompetence and bungling is still the 
> >> > > > > > rule
> >> > > > > > here, with odd exceptions.  I wish for radical reform, but also
> >> > > wonder
> >> > > > > > if we just shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie!
>
> >> > > > > > Years ago, a mate of mine I met in LA whilst over there to 
> >> > > > > > escort a
> >> > > > > > prisoner back here, got into a load of disciplinary problems as a
> >> > > > > > cop.  He fell over an armed robbery whilst off duty, having 
> >> > > > > > nipped
> >> > > out
> >> > > > > > for some fags in the early morning on a day off.  He'd forgotten 
> >> > > > > > his
> >> > > > > > gun, but smacked the mugger on the head with a milk bottle 
> >> > > > > > (needed
> >> > > > > > coffee with his ciggies) and arrested him.  Over here, I'd have 
> >> > > > > > got a
> >> > > > > > commendation.  He got a discipline charge for being unarmed 
> >> > > > > > off-duty.
> >> > > > > > At around this time, our government disarmed the RUC (then N.
> >> > > > > > Ireland's police force) and got a load of them killed as a 
> >> > > > > > result in
> >> > > > > > 'the troubles'.  At least the poor sods in this case hadn't been 
> >> > > > > > set
> >> > > > > > up by their own government!  One case I dealt with in NI 
> >> > > > > > involved a
> >> > > > > > shoot out in which the illegal guns were mostly held by the cops
> >> > > (they
> >> > > > > > kept shotguns at the time, expecting the dread call of IRA-linked
> >> > > > > > turds).  At the height of this very serious terrorism, our 
> >> > > > > > mainland
> >> > > > > > cops were largely unarmed.  Now they sometimes bristle with 
> >> > > > > > weaponry,
> >> > > > > > with a much reduced threat, kill Brazilians for no reason and 
> >> > > > > > shoot
> >> > > up
> >> > > > > > honest Islamic families.  Never easy answers in these areas.
>
> >> > > > > > I'd start, should I be awarded the mission by whoever runs the
> >> > > country
> >> > > > > > (CIA?), by disestablishing the hold of the legal profession over 
> >> > > > > > law
> >> > > > > > and running 'scrote courts' as concurrently as possible with the
> >> > > > > > crimes committed, put the guilty in cheap huts surrounded by 
> >> > > > > > barbed
> >> > > > > > wire ... and establish decent public transport based on Internet
> >> > > > > > ordered cars in order to make traffic wardens unnecessary (due to
> >> > > lack
> >> > > > > > of traffic).  If most of our senior cops died accidentally 
> >> > > > > > overnight,
> >> > > > > > I suspect we'd have the resources for some decent policing.  
> >> > > > > > Judges
> >> > > > > > and lawyers should be subject to a cull (100%) and replaced by 
> >> > > > > > people
> >> > > > > > who have done real jobs.  Crooks undergoing rehabilitation should
> >> > > have
> >> > > > > > to live near the people who let them out or gave them short
> >> > > > > > sentences.  Wages in the legal system should be linked to average
> >> > > > > > wages ... zzzz ... but seriously we either go radical or just 
> >> > > > > > shut
> >> > > up.
>
> >> > > > > > On 4 Dec, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > I have to say it has always been a bad deal for police, the
> >> > > alienation
> >> > > > > > > by a large segment of society and the injuries sustained by
> >> > > irritable
> >> > > > > > > suspects.  Thousands of police are assaulted by suspects every
> >> > > year,
> >> > > > > > > bitten, spit at, kicked and punched for no reason other than 
> >> > > > > > > doing
> >> > > > > > > their job, performing a service for society.
> >> > > > > > > It is true that some of the worst people in society and many 
> >> > > > > > > who
> >> > > hate
> >> > > > > > > police are the first to yell "Call the Police" when they have a
> >> > > > > > > problem.
> >> > > > > > > I do see an underlying problem that should be changed, ie: Stop
> >> > >  using
> >> > > > > > > police as back door tax collectors who basically spend much of
> >> > > their
> >> > > > > > > time issuing citations for petty violations, which is one of 
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > reasons people hate them, that stupid ticket for a vehicle 
> >> > > > > > > sticker
> >> > > or
> >> > > > > > > that ridiculous seat belt law.  I'm driving 15 mph, why do I 
> >> > > > > > > need a
> >> > > > > > > seat belt?
> >> > > > > > > Police should be a task force to address crime and not waste 
> >> > > > > > > time
> >> > > > > > > filling out forms. They should be out catching criminals 
> >> > > > > > > instead of
> >> > > > > > > taking an accident report.  There could be an unarmed passive 
> >> > > > > > > task
> >> > > > > > > force to go out and take care of those things.
>
> >> > > > > > > On Dec 2, 12:40 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > On Sunday morning, when most of us were getting our coffee 
> >> > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > preparing to watch an NFL pregame show, 4 officers of the law
> >> > > were
> >> > > > > > > > executed by a rapist...ooops...excuse my horrible and evil
> >> > > > > > > > language...ummmm...sex offender... ummm ya....
> >> > > > > > > > anyway, he was out of jail on bail.
> >> > > > > > > > Three men and a woman(all officers) were murdered in cold 
> >> > > > > > > > blood,
> >> > > in an
> >> > > > > > > > assault that was very clearly planned out.
>
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