I don't know who DeDilva is but I loved this movie too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjptQSfuTy8

-Don


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:12 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> When presented with the likes of a ‘Wulfgar’, if forced into the role
> of DeSilva, I’m not sure of what my actions might be. However, since I
> greatly appreciate (and watch over and over) “DeDilva’s” film, “First
> Blood”, my guess is that I would do the same.
>
> On Dec 6, 3:00 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Serpico is long forgotten.  The good cops don't realise what damage
>> the bad ones are doing.  The issues are much wider than the police -
>> this is to do with a lack of respect for those not seen to have
>> 'power'.
>>
>> On 6 Dec, 02:38, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I geuss your right...uhmm
>>
>> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, ornamentalmind 
>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> > > Quite true fran. The term serendipity doesn't even touch it.
>>
>> > > On Dec 5, 6:25 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > Interesting to see you quoting Bob, Orn. One of his oldest friends,
>> > > > Liam Clancy, died yesterday:
>>
>> > > >http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/obituaries/2009/1205/122426014598...
>>
>> > > > It was probably Clancy whom Dylan heard singing Dominic Beehan's
>> > > > ballad, "The Patriot Game." Another song he ripped off - he called his
>> > > > version, "With God on our Side" (most recently used to good effect by
>> > > > Oliver Stone as the conclusion to his film "W"). Wow, isn't the whole
>> > > > world just full of amazing connections ... :-)
>>
>> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRao09EgPs&ytsession=P0oPMPOxf1oUx1u_...
>>
>> > > > Francis
>>
>> > > > On 5 Dez., 12:46, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > In the immortal words of Mr. Zimmerman: “There ain’t too much I can
>> > > > > say about this song except that the answer is blowing in the wind. It
>> > > > > ain’t in no book or movie or TV show or discussion group. Man, it’s 
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > the wind—and it’s blowing in the wind. Too many of these hip people
>> > > > > are telling me where the answer is but oh I won’t believe that. I
>> > > > > still say it’s in the wind and just like a restless piece of paper
>> > > > > it’s got to come down some  ...But the only trouble is that no one
>> > > > > picks up the answer when it comes down so not too many people get to
>> > > > > see and know ...and then it flies away I still say that some of the
>> > > > > biggest criminals are those that turn their heads away when they see
>> > > > > wrong and know it’s wrong. I’m only 21 years old and I know that
>> > > > > there’s been too many  ...You people over 21, you’re older and
>> > > > > smarter.” -
>>
>> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin'_in_the_Wind
>>
>> > > > > Of course, even here, years later he freely admits to having ripped
>> > > > > off the song from the preceding, by over a century, spiritual “No 
>> > > > > More
>> > > > > Auction Block”. – ibid
>>
>> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIZ5t1Tu24
>>
>> > > > > On Dec 5, 2:02 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > Cops don't generally get mown down over here of course, but they 
>> > > > > > have
>> > > > > > lost a lot of respect since I left the job (no doubt because the
>> > > > > > impact of my heroic efforts is no longer felt)!  The problem here 
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > that the forces are no good at what they should be doing and a pain
>> > > in
>> > > > > > everyone's butt on stuff they shouldn't be doing (much as Slip
>> > > > > > suggests).  We need our police to have more powers to deal with
>> > > > > > scrotes and other crooks and at the same time for them to be open 
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > proper oversight and be much better at human rights.  I'm afraid 
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > decisions on this are in the hands of incompetents and
>> > > self-interested
>> > > > > > creeps - politicians and do-gooders.  "Crime" has become a 
>> > > > > > political
>> > > > > > issue because our politicians are so devoid of ideas they 
>> > > > > > manipulate
>> > > > > > us with promises to crack down.  'Tough on crime, tough on the 
>> > > > > > causes
>> > > > > > of crime' was the Blair slogan - out of the mouth of a war 
>> > > > > > criminal.
>>
>> > > > > > Our local cops did a burglary sweep last month and nicked about 300
>> > > > > > such cretins across Bolton, a town of about 250,000.  Good on them,
>> > > > > > yet one has to wonder, with the gaols full, more young kids locked 
>> > > > > > up
>> > > > > > than ever before and crime falling to 'new lows' just how the ****
>> > > > > > there can be so many crooks just lying around waiting to be
>> > > > > > processed.  I would guess, Slip, that the UK forces (50-odd) are
>> > > > > > basically unarmed and passive - we don't see armed cops much except
>> > > at
>> > > > > > airports.  Ask anyone having to live near scrotes and they'll tell
>> > > you
>> > > > > > the cops are passive!  Incompetence and bungling is still the rule
>> > > > > > here, with odd exceptions.  I wish for radical reform, but also
>> > > wonder
>> > > > > > if we just shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie!
>>
>> > > > > > Years ago, a mate of mine I met in LA whilst over there to escort a
>> > > > > > prisoner back here, got into a load of disciplinary problems as a
>> > > > > > cop.  He fell over an armed robbery whilst off duty, having nipped
>> > > out
>> > > > > > for some fags in the early morning on a day off.  He'd forgotten 
>> > > > > > his
>> > > > > > gun, but smacked the mugger on the head with a milk bottle (needed
>> > > > > > coffee with his ciggies) and arrested him.  Over here, I'd have 
>> > > > > > got a
>> > > > > > commendation.  He got a discipline charge for being unarmed 
>> > > > > > off-duty.
>> > > > > > At around this time, our government disarmed the RUC (then N.
>> > > > > > Ireland's police force) and got a load of them killed as a result 
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > 'the troubles'.  At least the poor sods in this case hadn't been 
>> > > > > > set
>> > > > > > up by their own government!  One case I dealt with in NI involved a
>> > > > > > shoot out in which the illegal guns were mostly held by the cops
>> > > (they
>> > > > > > kept shotguns at the time, expecting the dread call of IRA-linked
>> > > > > > turds).  At the height of this very serious terrorism, our mainland
>> > > > > > cops were largely unarmed.  Now they sometimes bristle with 
>> > > > > > weaponry,
>> > > > > > with a much reduced threat, kill Brazilians for no reason and shoot
>> > > up
>> > > > > > honest Islamic families.  Never easy answers in these areas.
>>
>> > > > > > I'd start, should I be awarded the mission by whoever runs the
>> > > country
>> > > > > > (CIA?), by disestablishing the hold of the legal profession over 
>> > > > > > law
>> > > > > > and running 'scrote courts' as concurrently as possible with the
>> > > > > > crimes committed, put the guilty in cheap huts surrounded by barbed
>> > > > > > wire ... and establish decent public transport based on Internet
>> > > > > > ordered cars in order to make traffic wardens unnecessary (due to
>> > > lack
>> > > > > > of traffic).  If most of our senior cops died accidentally 
>> > > > > > overnight,
>> > > > > > I suspect we'd have the resources for some decent policing.  Judges
>> > > > > > and lawyers should be subject to a cull (100%) and replaced by 
>> > > > > > people
>> > > > > > who have done real jobs.  Crooks undergoing rehabilitation should
>> > > have
>> > > > > > to live near the people who let them out or gave them short
>> > > > > > sentences.  Wages in the legal system should be linked to average
>> > > > > > wages ... zzzz ... but seriously we either go radical or just shut
>> > > up.
>>
>> > > > > > On 4 Dec, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > I have to say it has always been a bad deal for police, the
>> > > alienation
>> > > > > > > by a large segment of society and the injuries sustained by
>> > > irritable
>> > > > > > > suspects.  Thousands of police are assaulted by suspects every
>> > > year,
>> > > > > > > bitten, spit at, kicked and punched for no reason other than 
>> > > > > > > doing
>> > > > > > > their job, performing a service for society.
>> > > > > > > It is true that some of the worst people in society and many who
>> > > hate
>> > > > > > > police are the first to yell "Call the Police" when they have a
>> > > > > > > problem.
>> > > > > > > I do see an underlying problem that should be changed, ie: Stop
>> > >  using
>> > > > > > > police as back door tax collectors who basically spend much of
>> > > their
>> > > > > > > time issuing citations for petty violations, which is one of the
>> > > > > > > reasons people hate them, that stupid ticket for a vehicle 
>> > > > > > > sticker
>> > > or
>> > > > > > > that ridiculous seat belt law.  I'm driving 15 mph, why do I 
>> > > > > > > need a
>> > > > > > > seat belt?
>> > > > > > > Police should be a task force to address crime and not waste time
>> > > > > > > filling out forms. They should be out catching criminals instead 
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > taking an accident report.  There could be an unarmed passive 
>> > > > > > > task
>> > > > > > > force to go out and take care of those things.
>>
>> > > > > > > On Dec 2, 12:40 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > On Sunday morning, when most of us were getting our coffee and
>> > > > > > > > preparing to watch an NFL pregame show, 4 officers of the law
>> > > were
>> > > > > > > > executed by a rapist...ooops...excuse my horrible and evil
>> > > > > > > > language...ummmm...sex offender... ummm ya....
>> > > > > > > > anyway, he was out of jail on bail.
>> > > > > > > > Three men and a woman(all officers) were murdered in cold 
>> > > > > > > > blood,
>> > > in an
>> > > > > > > > assault that was very clearly planned out.
>>
>> > >http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cops_shot_dead_in_washington_co...
>>
>> > > > > > > > This fashion of crime was committed a month ago, almost to the
>> > > day, in
>> > > > > > > > Seattle. On Halloween night a wanna-be gang-banger walked up 
>> > > > > > > > to a
>> > > car
>> > > > > > > > that was in the process of protecting our children on a night
>> > > when all
>> > > > > > > > too many are injured or killed out of pure negligence on the 
>> > > > > > > > part
>> > > of
>> > > > > > > > drivers. It has been shown, year after year and decade after
>> > > decade,
>> > > > > > > > that having a marked vehicle with REAL officers has a decided
>> > > > > > > > difference in injury and mortality rates at times and on dates
>> > > when
>> > > > > > > > children or pedestrians are especially at risk, and it appears
>> > > that
>> > > > > > > > this person counted on that fact. Both officers in the car were
>> > > shot
>> > > > > > > > and the veteran officer was a victim of murder. I, and 
>> > > > > > > > everyone i
>> > > > > > > > know, are thankful that the passenger and junior officer 
>> > > > > > > > survived
>> > > with
>>
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