I geuss your right...uhmm On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote:
> Quite true fran. The term serendipity doesn't even touch it. > > On Dec 5, 6:25 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote: > > Interesting to see you quoting Bob, Orn. One of his oldest friends, > > Liam Clancy, died yesterday: > > > > http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/obituaries/2009/1205/122426014598... > > > > It was probably Clancy whom Dylan heard singing Dominic Beehan's > > ballad, "The Patriot Game." Another song he ripped off - he called his > > version, "With God on our Side" (most recently used to good effect by > > Oliver Stone as the conclusion to his film "W"). Wow, isn't the whole > > world just full of amazing connections ... :-) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRao09EgPs&ytsession=P0oPMPOxf1oUx1u_... > > > > Francis > > > > On 5 Dez., 12:46, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In the immortal words of Mr. Zimmerman: “There ain’t too much I can > > > say about this song except that the answer is blowing in the wind. It > > > ain’t in no book or movie or TV show or discussion group. Man, it’s in > > > the wind—and it’s blowing in the wind. Too many of these hip people > > > are telling me where the answer is but oh I won’t believe that. I > > > still say it’s in the wind and just like a restless piece of paper > > > it’s got to come down some ...But the only trouble is that no one > > > picks up the answer when it comes down so not too many people get to > > > see and know ...and then it flies away I still say that some of the > > > biggest criminals are those that turn their heads away when they see > > > wrong and know it’s wrong. I’m only 21 years old and I know that > > > there’s been too many ...You people over 21, you’re older and > > > smarter.” - > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin'_in_the_Wind > > > > > Of course, even here, years later he freely admits to having ripped > > > off the song from the preceding, by over a century, spiritual “No More > > > Auction Block”. – ibid > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIZ5t1Tu24 > > > > > On Dec 5, 2:02 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Cops don't generally get mown down over here of course, but they have > > > > lost a lot of respect since I left the job (no doubt because the > > > > impact of my heroic efforts is no longer felt)! The problem here is > > > > that the forces are no good at what they should be doing and a pain > in > > > > everyone's butt on stuff they shouldn't be doing (much as Slip > > > > suggests). We need our police to have more powers to deal with > > > > scrotes and other crooks and at the same time for them to be open to > > > > proper oversight and be much better at human rights. I'm afraid the > > > > decisions on this are in the hands of incompetents and > self-interested > > > > creeps - politicians and do-gooders. "Crime" has become a political > > > > issue because our politicians are so devoid of ideas they manipulate > > > > us with promises to crack down. 'Tough on crime, tough on the causes > > > > of crime' was the Blair slogan - out of the mouth of a war criminal. > > > > > > Our local cops did a burglary sweep last month and nicked about 300 > > > > such cretins across Bolton, a town of about 250,000. Good on them, > > > > yet one has to wonder, with the gaols full, more young kids locked up > > > > than ever before and crime falling to 'new lows' just how the **** > > > > there can be so many crooks just lying around waiting to be > > > > processed. I would guess, Slip, that the UK forces (50-odd) are > > > > basically unarmed and passive - we don't see armed cops much except > at > > > > airports. Ask anyone having to live near scrotes and they'll tell > you > > > > the cops are passive! Incompetence and bungling is still the rule > > > > here, with odd exceptions. I wish for radical reform, but also > wonder > > > > if we just shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie! > > > > > > Years ago, a mate of mine I met in LA whilst over there to escort a > > > > prisoner back here, got into a load of disciplinary problems as a > > > > cop. He fell over an armed robbery whilst off duty, having nipped > out > > > > for some fags in the early morning on a day off. He'd forgotten his > > > > gun, but smacked the mugger on the head with a milk bottle (needed > > > > coffee with his ciggies) and arrested him. Over here, I'd have got a > > > > commendation. He got a discipline charge for being unarmed off-duty. > > > > At around this time, our government disarmed the RUC (then N. > > > > Ireland's police force) and got a load of them killed as a result in > > > > 'the troubles'. At least the poor sods in this case hadn't been set > > > > up by their own government! One case I dealt with in NI involved a > > > > shoot out in which the illegal guns were mostly held by the cops > (they > > > > kept shotguns at the time, expecting the dread call of IRA-linked > > > > turds). At the height of this very serious terrorism, our mainland > > > > cops were largely unarmed. Now they sometimes bristle with weaponry, > > > > with a much reduced threat, kill Brazilians for no reason and shoot > up > > > > honest Islamic families. Never easy answers in these areas. > > > > > > I'd start, should I be awarded the mission by whoever runs the > country > > > > (CIA?), by disestablishing the hold of the legal profession over law > > > > and running 'scrote courts' as concurrently as possible with the > > > > crimes committed, put the guilty in cheap huts surrounded by barbed > > > > wire ... and establish decent public transport based on Internet > > > > ordered cars in order to make traffic wardens unnecessary (due to > lack > > > > of traffic). If most of our senior cops died accidentally overnight, > > > > I suspect we'd have the resources for some decent policing. Judges > > > > and lawyers should be subject to a cull (100%) and replaced by people > > > > who have done real jobs. Crooks undergoing rehabilitation should > have > > > > to live near the people who let them out or gave them short > > > > sentences. Wages in the legal system should be linked to average > > > > wages ... zzzz ... but seriously we either go radical or just shut > up. > > > > > > On 4 Dec, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I have to say it has always been a bad deal for police, the > alienation > > > > > by a large segment of society and the injuries sustained by > irritable > > > > > suspects. Thousands of police are assaulted by suspects every > year, > > > > > bitten, spit at, kicked and punched for no reason other than doing > > > > > their job, performing a service for society. > > > > > It is true that some of the worst people in society and many who > hate > > > > > police are the first to yell "Call the Police" when they have a > > > > > problem. > > > > > I do see an underlying problem that should be changed, ie: Stop > using > > > > > police as back door tax collectors who basically spend much of > their > > > > > time issuing citations for petty violations, which is one of the > > > > > reasons people hate them, that stupid ticket for a vehicle sticker > or > > > > > that ridiculous seat belt law. I'm driving 15 mph, why do I need a > > > > > seat belt? > > > > > Police should be a task force to address crime and not waste time > > > > > filling out forms. They should be out catching criminals instead of > > > > > taking an accident report. There could be an unarmed passive task > > > > > force to go out and take care of those things. > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 12:40 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday morning, when most of us were getting our coffee and > > > > > > preparing to watch an NFL pregame show, 4 officers of the law > were > > > > > > executed by a rapist...ooops...excuse my horrible and evil > > > > > > language...ummmm...sex offender... ummm ya.... > > > > > > anyway, he was out of jail on bail. > > > > > > Three men and a woman(all officers) were murdered in cold blood, > in an > > > > > > assault that was very clearly planned out. > > > > > > > > > http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cops_shot_dead_in_washington_co... > > > > > > > > This fashion of crime was committed a month ago, almost to the > day, in > > > > > > Seattle. On Halloween night a wanna-be gang-banger walked up to a > car > > > > > > that was in the process of protecting our children on a night > when all > > > > > > too many are injured or killed out of pure negligence on the part > of > > > > > > drivers. It has been shown, year after year and decade after > decade, > > > > > > that having a marked vehicle with REAL officers has a decided > > > > > > difference in injury and mortality rates at times and on dates > when > > > > > > children or pedestrians are especially at risk, and it appears > that > > > > > > this person counted on that fact. Both officers in the car were > shot > > > > > > and the veteran officer was a victim of murder. I, and everyone i > > > > > > know, are thankful that the passenger and junior officer survived > with > > > > > > little more than uncomfortable wounds. > > > > > > > > The truly terrible consequence of these acts are not the deaths > and > > > > > > woundings, however. The extremely disheartening fact is that, as > more > > > > > > and more law enforcement professionals are feeling separated from > the > > > > > > community that expects them to magically appear seconds after > > > > > > requesting help, these disgusting murderers make sure that > officers of > > > > > > the law can NOT be at ease in public. I'm not a fan of cops, and > I > > > > > > haven't been for decades. But the most important aspect of city > life - > > > > > > even the L.A. gangs know this- we must allow the cops to walk > freely > > > > > > and comfortably among all of society. They may be an enemy to > drug > > > > > > users/pushers, whores/pimps, homeless/hitchhikers, poor/minority; > but > > > > > > there are times where anyone should feel able to approach them > with > > > > > > problems and/or questions. > > > > > > > > The only lasting legacy that these disgusting murderers leave is > that > > > > > > the > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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