Enjoy Don! I don't doubt that Neil would like it too... On Dec 7, 5:47 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow. I've never seen this movie. Don't know how I missed it. Has > Lando Calrissian, Roy Batty, the Bionic Woman and Rambo. Awesome. > > -Don > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote: > > DJ, see:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082817/ > > > On Dec 6, 9:01 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't know who DeDilva is but I loved this movie too. > > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjptQSfuTy8 > > >> -Don > > >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:12 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > When presented with the likes of a ‘Wulfgar’, if forced into the role > >> > of DeSilva, I’m not sure of what my actions might be. However, since I > >> > greatly appreciate (and watch over and over) “DeDilva’s” film, “First > >> > Blood”, my guess is that I would do the same. > > >> > On Dec 6, 3:00 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Serpico is long forgotten. The good cops don't realise what damage > >> >> the bad ones are doing. The issues are much wider than the police - > >> >> this is to do with a lack of respect for those not seen to have > >> >> 'power'. > > >> >> On 6 Dec, 02:38, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > I geuss your right...uhmm > > >> >> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, ornamentalmind > >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> >> > > Quite true fran. The term serendipity doesn't even touch it. > > >> >> > > On Dec 5, 6:25 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > > Interesting to see you quoting Bob, Orn. One of his oldest > >> >> > > > friends, > >> >> > > > Liam Clancy, died yesterday: > > >> >> > > >http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/obituaries/2009/1205/122426014598... > > >> >> > > > It was probably Clancy whom Dylan heard singing Dominic Beehan's > >> >> > > > ballad, "The Patriot Game." Another song he ripped off - he > >> >> > > > called his > >> >> > > > version, "With God on our Side" (most recently used to good > >> >> > > > effect by > >> >> > > > Oliver Stone as the conclusion to his film "W"). Wow, isn't the > >> >> > > > whole > >> >> > > > world just full of amazing connections ... :-) > > >> >> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRao09EgPs&ytsession=P0oPMPOxf1oUx1u_... > > >> >> > > > Francis > > >> >> > > > On 5 Dez., 12:46, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > In the immortal words of Mr. Zimmerman: “There ain’t too much I > >> >> > > > > can > >> >> > > > > say about this song except that the answer is blowing in the > >> >> > > > > wind. It > >> >> > > > > ain’t in no book or movie or TV show or discussion group. Man, > >> >> > > > > it’s in > >> >> > > > > the wind—and it’s blowing in the wind. Too many of these hip > >> >> > > > > people > >> >> > > > > are telling me where the answer is but oh I won’t believe that. > >> >> > > > > I > >> >> > > > > still say it’s in the wind and just like a restless piece of > >> >> > > > > paper > >> >> > > > > it’s got to come down some ...But the only trouble is that no > >> >> > > > > one > >> >> > > > > picks up the answer when it comes down so not too many people > >> >> > > > > get to > >> >> > > > > see and know ...and then it flies away I still say that some of > >> >> > > > > the > >> >> > > > > biggest criminals are those that turn their heads away when > >> >> > > > > they see > >> >> > > > > wrong and know it’s wrong. I’m only 21 years old and I know that > >> >> > > > > there’s been too many ...You people over 21, you’re older and > >> >> > > > > smarter.” - > > >> >> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin'_in_the_Wind > > >> >> > > > > Of course, even here, years later he freely admits to having > >> >> > > > > ripped > >> >> > > > > off the song from the preceding, by over a century, spiritual > >> >> > > > > “No More > >> >> > > > > Auction Block”. – ibid > > >> >> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pIZ5t1Tu24 > > >> >> > > > > On Dec 5, 2:02 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > Cops don't generally get mown down over here of course, but > >> >> > > > > > they have > >> >> > > > > > lost a lot of respect since I left the job (no doubt because > >> >> > > > > > the > >> >> > > > > > impact of my heroic efforts is no longer felt)! The problem > >> >> > > > > > here is > >> >> > > > > > that the forces are no good at what they should be doing and > >> >> > > > > > a pain > >> >> > > in > >> >> > > > > > everyone's butt on stuff they shouldn't be doing (much as Slip > >> >> > > > > > suggests). We need our police to have more powers to deal > >> >> > > > > > with > >> >> > > > > > scrotes and other crooks and at the same time for them to be > >> >> > > > > > open to > >> >> > > > > > proper oversight and be much better at human rights. I'm > >> >> > > > > > afraid the > >> >> > > > > > decisions on this are in the hands of incompetents and > >> >> > > self-interested > >> >> > > > > > creeps - politicians and do-gooders. "Crime" has become a > >> >> > > > > > political > >> >> > > > > > issue because our politicians are so devoid of ideas they > >> >> > > > > > manipulate > >> >> > > > > > us with promises to crack down. 'Tough on crime, tough on > >> >> > > > > > the causes > >> >> > > > > > of crime' was the Blair slogan - out of the mouth of a war > >> >> > > > > > criminal. > > >> >> > > > > > Our local cops did a burglary sweep last month and nicked > >> >> > > > > > about 300 > >> >> > > > > > such cretins across Bolton, a town of about 250,000. Good on > >> >> > > > > > them, > >> >> > > > > > yet one has to wonder, with the gaols full, more young kids > >> >> > > > > > locked up > >> >> > > > > > than ever before and crime falling to 'new lows' just how the > >> >> > > > > > **** > >> >> > > > > > there can be so many crooks just lying around waiting to be > >> >> > > > > > processed. I would guess, Slip, that the UK forces (50-odd) > >> >> > > > > > are > >> >> > > > > > basically unarmed and passive - we don't see armed cops much > >> >> > > > > > except > >> >> > > at > >> >> > > > > > airports. Ask anyone having to live near scrotes and they'll > >> >> > > > > > tell > >> >> > > you > >> >> > > > > > the cops are passive! Incompetence and bungling is still the > >> >> > > > > > rule > >> >> > > > > > here, with odd exceptions. I wish for radical reform, but > >> >> > > > > > also > >> >> > > wonder > >> >> > > > > > if we just shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie! > > >> >> > > > > > Years ago, a mate of mine I met in LA whilst over there to > >> >> > > > > > escort a > >> >> > > > > > prisoner back here, got into a load of disciplinary problems > >> >> > > > > > as a > >> >> > > > > > cop. He fell over an armed robbery whilst off duty, having > >> >> > > > > > nipped > >> >> > > out > >> >> > > > > > for some fags in the early morning on a day off. He'd > >> >> > > > > > forgotten his > >> >> > > > > > gun, but smacked the mugger on the head with a milk bottle > >> >> > > > > > (needed > >> >> > > > > > coffee with his ciggies) and arrested him. Over here, I'd > >> >> > > > > > have got a > >> >> > > > > > commendation. He got a discipline charge for being unarmed > >> >> > > > > > off-duty. > >> >> > > > > > At around this time, our government disarmed the RUC (then N. > >> >> > > > > > Ireland's police force) and got a load of them killed as a > >> >> > > > > > result in > >> >> > > > > > 'the troubles'. At least the poor sods in this case hadn't > >> >> > > > > > been set > >> >> > > > > > up by their own government! One case I dealt with in NI > >> >> > > > > > involved a > >> >> > > > > > shoot out in which the illegal guns were mostly held by the > >> >> > > > > > cops > >> >> > > (they > >> >> > > > > > kept shotguns at the time, expecting the dread call of > >> >> > > > > > IRA-linked > >> >> > > > > > turds). At the height of this very serious terrorism, our > >> >> > > > > > mainland > >> >> > > > > > cops were largely unarmed. Now they sometimes bristle with > >> >> > > > > > weaponry, > >> >> > > > > > with a much reduced threat, kill Brazilians for no reason and > >> >> > > > > > shoot > >> >> > > up > >> >> > > > > > honest Islamic families. Never easy answers in these areas. > > >> >> > > > > > I'd start, should I be awarded the mission by whoever runs the > >> >> > > country > >> >> > > > > > (CIA?), by disestablishing the hold of the legal profession > >> >> > > > > > over law > >> >> > > > > > and running 'scrote courts' as concurrently as possible with > >> >> > > > > > the > >> >> > > > > > crimes committed, put the guilty in cheap huts surrounded by > >> >> > > > > > barbed > >> >> > > > > > wire ... and establish decent public transport based on > >> >> > > > > > Internet > >> >> > > > > > ordered cars in order to make traffic wardens unnecessary > >> >> > > > > > (due to > >> >> > > lack > >> >> > > > > > of traffic). If most of our senior cops died accidentally > >> >> > > > > > overnight, > >> >> > > > > > I suspect we'd have the resources for some decent policing. > >> >> > > > > > Judges > >> >> > > > > > and lawyers should be subject to a cull (100%) and replaced > >> >> > > > > > by people > >> >> > > > > > who have done real jobs. Crooks undergoing rehabilitation > >> >> > > > > > should > >> >> > > have > >> >> > > > > > to live near the people who let them out or gave them short > >> >> > > > > > sentences. Wages in the legal system should be linked to > >> >> > > > > > average > >> >> > > > > > wages ... zzzz ... but seriously we either go radical or just > >> >> > > > > > shut > >> >> > > up. > > >> >> > > > > > On 4 Dec, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > I have to say it has always been a bad deal for police, the > >> >> > > alienation > >> >> > > > > > > by a large segment of society and the injuries sustained by > >> >> > > irritable > >> >> > > > > > > suspects. Thousands of police are assaulted by suspects > >> >> > > > > > > every > >> >> > > year, > >> >> > > > > > > bitten, spit at, kicked and punched for no reason other > >> >> > > > > > > than doing > >> >> > > > > > > their job, performing a service for society. > >> >> > > > > > > It is true that some of the worst people in society and > >> >> > > > > > > many who > >> >> > > hate > >> >> > > > > > > police are the first to yell "Call the Police" when they > >> >> > > > > > > have a > >> >> > > > > > > problem. > >> >> > > > > > > I do see an underlying problem that should be changed, ie: > >> >> > > > > > > Stop > >> >> > > using > >> >> > > > > > > police as back door tax collectors who basically spend much > >> >> > > > > > > of > >> >> > > their > >> >> > > > > > > time issuing citations for petty violations, which is one > >> >> > > > > > > of the > >> >> > > > > > > reasons people hate them, that stupid ticket for a vehicle > >> >> > > > > > > sticker > >> >> > > or > >> >> > > > > > > that ridiculous seat belt law. I'm driving 15 mph, why do > >> >> > > > > > > I need a > >> >> > > > > > > seat belt? > >> >> > > > > > > Police should be a task force to address crime and not > >> >> > > > > > > waste time > >> >> > > > > > > filling out forms. They should be out catching criminals > >> >> > > > > > > instead of > >> >> > > > > > > taking an accident > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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