Ahh then I truely thank you. On 18 Dec, 01:07, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > I searched for the word "Sikh" in all of the English translations of > the Baha'i writings that I have on my computer, and found nothing but > a footnote. I have sent an inquiry to a friend who has studied the > Baha'i writings in the original Arabic and Farsi to see if he knows of > any untranslated references. > > On Dec 17, 11:07 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Nope OM I think not. > > >http://www.bahai.org.uk/gi/intro.htm > > > The sallient part of this page is this: > > > 'Bahá’ís believe that Bahá'u'lláh is the most recent in the long line > > of divinely inspired prophets and messengers of God – including > > Zoroaster, Moses, the Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad. Bahá’u’lláh has > > brought teachings that address the particular moral and spiritual > > challenges of the modern world. But he explicitly states that there > > will be further messengers from God in the future.' > > > No mention of any of the ten Sikh Guru's there. Which I have always > > found odd as ther are many simularities, and of course Sikhi itself is > > merely 600 years old. Not that I mind, I just find it odd is all. > > > On 17 Dec, 14:53, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Lee, perhaps your assumption is in error? > > > >http://search.bahai.org/main/?query=sikh > > > > On Dec 17, 5:40 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ahhhhhh the rhetoric of a follower of the Baha'i faith umm? > > > > > Allow me to add my welcome to you Sir or Madam? > > > > > You say that: > > > > > 'It unites all cultures, all races, all religions in a unity that that > > > > fosters diversity. It inspires creative thought, in arts, and crafts, > > > > sciences and technology, but tempers these with the wisdom of service > > > > to all humankind and to this living world we inhabit. Individuals are > > > > urged to earn the means of living through paths of such service.' > > > > > Then parhaps you are the very person to answer me this. You see I > > > > have long been asking this question of those of the Baha'i faith and > > > > as of yet, no answer. > > > > > The above sounds very much some other religion I know of, a faith that > > > > preaches the unity of all, the idea that God is prevalent through out > > > > the creation, that meditation upon God and service to humanity is the > > > > key. I speak of Sikhi, and I have always wondered why no mention of > > > > the Sikh Guru's? > > > > > On 17 Dec, 03:16, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The binary reply is 1, but your explication calls for more: > > > > > The human world has seen many cycles since Zoroaster, and before as > > > > > well. Since our ancestors became creative, and left the cradle of > > > > > Africa, cycles of enlightenment and the path toward Unity have dawned > > > > > and turned round to nights of superstition, injustice and > > > > > divisiveness. There may have been such cycles before as well: Once > > > > > all life was single-celled organisms. These joined in colonies, the > > > > > collective goo supporting each member. Differentiation occurred, > > > > > parasites became symbiotes, bacteria became organelles, and complex > > > > > cells formed tissues and organs. In the light of this lengthy > > > > > evolution of life, the history of man is the cycle of one breath, > > > > > those aforementioned cycles like heartbeats or eye blinks. > > > > > The science, history, literature and logics taught to a child of 5 > > > > > should fit her capacities, but form a basis for lessons in later > > > > > years. Know-it-all youth are creative and bold, but likely to wreck > > > > > the car and even die from such ignorant action. Hard lessons can lead > > > > > to desire for ways that lead to happiness, beyond mere glandular > > > > > stimulation. > > > > > I am saying that as we have grown in population and power, hard > > > > > lessons will force maturity on the species. There is a teaching of > > > > > recent origin, and relevant light for the darkness of our times. It > > > > > has spread to all nations. It unites all cultures, all races, all > > > > > religions in a unity that that fosters diversity. It inspires creative > > > > > thought, in arts, and crafts, sciences and technology, but tempers > > > > > these with the wisdom of service to all humankind and to this living > > > > > world we inhabit. Individuals are urged to earn the means of living > > > > > through paths of such service. (For me, that would be through the art > > > > > of the theater, and perhaps as a theoretician's assistant.) > > > > > “The distinguishing feature that marketh the preeminent character > > > > > of this Supreme Revelation consisteth in that We have, on the one > > > > > hand, blotted out from the pages of God’s holy Book whatsoever hath > > > > > been the cause of strife, of malice and mischief amongst the children > > > > > of men, and have, on the other, laid down the essential prerequisites > > > > > of concord, of understanding, of complete and enduring unity.” - > > > > > Bahá’u’lláh > > > > > > On Dec 16, 9:02 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Cell, without wishing to sound too skeptical and as ideal as your > > > > > > presentation is, has not your ‘tree of life’, the knowledge of > > > > > > radical > > > > > > unity been known countless times over the course of human history > > > > > > already, starting with Zoroaster? I ask this in a rather rhetorical > > > > > > sense because it appears to be the historical truth, yet somehow, > > > > > > this > > > > > > wisdom of the one became polluted as demonstrated by the majority of > > > > > > history. In this way, while its truth remains, its awareness > > > > > > cyclically becomes covered over with the resulting human issues > > > > > > manifesting. So, in order to ask an actual question of you, are you > > > > > > suggesting that a new era, a dawning of unity is upon us, and that > > > > > > this era will remain rather than come and go? > > > > > > > On Dec 15, 6:49 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree with Muhammad Yunus that “poverty is not part of human > > > > > > > being”, > > > > > > > and that it is possible to eliminate poverty. I believe that, as > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > population of humans on the planet increases, and as we humans > > > > > > > gain > > > > > > > increasing technological power to change the environment (for > > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > ill), there will inevitably come a time when it will be generally > > > > > > > recognized that the current patterns of organization of human > > > > > > > society > > > > > > > and endeavor are seriously defective. Unfortunately, a severe and > > > > > > > indisputably man-made global calamity may have to occur before > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > realization occurs. I fear that we may even have be thrown into > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > chaos that none of the current systems can even function. In any > > > > > > > case, I believe that after this chaos, a new system will grow. > > > > > > > I believe I have seen the seeds of this new system, and it is > > > > > > > based in > > > > > > > the knowledge that all of mankind is one: that not only are we all > > > > > > > equal in a fundamental sense, but that our many differences > > > > > > > compliment > > > > > > > each other. That we are all as leaves of the same tree. > > > > > > > Universal > > > > > > > education in literature, sciences and arts is a necessary > > > > > > > component of > > > > > > > this system. I have also observed, and participated in, a form of > > > > > > > decision making which creates solutions through the sharing of > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > until a consensus is reached (the emphasis being on the creative > > > > > > > part, > > > > > > > as no one goes into the process attached to any particular > > > > > > > solution.) > > > > > > > I will not go into any more details of this system at this time, > > > > > > > except to say that there are a few villages that have adopted the > > > > > > > principals of this system and are currently thriving as the people > > > > > > > work together in cooperation instead of competition. > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 9:18 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > A very interesting view: > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > MUHAMMAD YUNUS: I believe that, totally, poverty is not part of > > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > being, that is my first premise, so if it not part of human > > > > > > > > being the > > > > > > > > real human being will emerge some day, it is the stupidity of > > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > being that created poverty, so stupidity can not go on, the real > > > > > > > > creativity of human being will take over the stupidity and it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > completely eliminate it and this is the century when it will > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > And it can be done, it's not a, a kind of a pipe dream or some > > > > > > > > fantastic thing, it's possible because it's us who make the > > > > > > > > difference > > > > > > > > and if we can create the structures to do that; people will > > > > > > > > raise > > > > > > > > themselves out of poverty, just like that. Human beings created > > > > > > > > to do > > > > > > > > much bigger things than struggle with food and clothes and some > > > > > > > > tiny > > > > > > > > little thing. These are matters of past, these are pre-historic > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > Real history will begin when there are no such things. > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > The entire interview is > > > > > > > > at:http://www.abc.net.au/tv/elders/transcripts/s2757468.htm-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
