Over the decades…in fact since the early 70s, I have approach/avoided Baha’i. IF I were to embrace a theology, this would be about as good as any as I see it. Like many such religions, there exists both exoteric and esoteric teachings. For the esoteric here, the ‘Hidden Words’ were of note to me. While perhaps not nearly as extensive nor maybe even as profound as say, Kabala or Sufism, they have their place for those so inclined to scriptural reading.
I thank Seals & Crofts from my first introduction to the world of Baha’i…their simple presentation at a concert decades ago intrigued me somewhat. The different Baha’i groups I’ve chatted with online over the years have been quite nice too. But then again, a Sikh friend of mine in Florida, replete with Kirpan and Dastaar, made quite an impressive impression too! : - ) For a portal to all things Baha’I, see: http://www.bahai.com/ On Dec 18, 4:17 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Haha 600 years old, not yet sir not yet. Although I fully intend to > live at least twice that long. > > On 18 Dec, 11:10, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Working hay was back-breakingly hard, though I miss the old days at > > Warby's farm. The best bit was the pint that didn't touch the sides > > after the morning's toil and realising Warby had demolished half-a- > > crate of Carlsberg Special Brew before your glass reached the bar > > empty. Only his Shire horses could do more work than him. These days > > he just breeds the horses and makes a mess of Special Brew stocks in > > the evening. The hay has gone, replaced by silage. I suspect the > > tough lessons of over-population will be war (again). David Kelly was > > B'Hai and he seems to have been killed by government. They are > > persecuted in Iran too. Bahaullah sounds remarkably like one of Lee's > > favourite cries without the 'ws'. Be careful of men in dark suits and > > invitations to walks in woods mate! B'Hai is inspiring, but not good > > for the health of scientists. Are you claiming to be 600 years old > > Lee? This will still leave you some way behind Orn and me, who are as > > old as the hills! > > > On 17 Dec, 16:07, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Nope OM I think not. > > > >http://www.bahai.org.uk/gi/intro.htm > > > > The sallient part of this page is this: > > > > 'Bahá’ís believe that Bahá'u'lláh is the most recent in the long line > > > of divinely inspired prophets and messengers of God – including > > > Zoroaster, Moses, the Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad. Bahá’u’lláh has > > > brought teachings that address the particular moral and spiritual > > > challenges of the modern world. But he explicitly states that there > > > will be further messengers from God in the future.' > > > > No mention of any of the ten Sikh Guru's there. Which I have always > > > found odd as ther are many simularities, and of course Sikhi itself is > > > merely 600 years old. Not that I mind, I just find it odd is all. > > > > On 17 Dec, 14:53, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Lee, perhaps your assumption is in error? > > > > >http://search.bahai.org/main/?query=sikh > > > > > On Dec 17, 5:40 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ahhhhhh the rhetoric of a follower of the Baha'i faith umm? > > > > > > Allow me to add my welcome to you Sir or Madam? > > > > > > You say that: > > > > > > 'It unites all cultures, all races, all religions in a unity that that > > > > > fosters diversity. It inspires creative thought, in arts, and crafts, > > > > > sciences and technology, but tempers these with the wisdom of service > > > > > to all humankind and to this living world we inhabit. Individuals are > > > > > urged to earn the means of living through paths of such service.' > > > > > > Then parhaps you are the very person to answer me this. You see I > > > > > have long been asking this question of those of the Baha'i faith and > > > > > as of yet, no answer. > > > > > > The above sounds very much some other religion I know of, a faith that > > > > > preaches the unity of all, the idea that God is prevalent through out > > > > > the creation, that meditation upon God and service to humanity is the > > > > > key. I speak of Sikhi, and I have always wondered why no mention of > > > > > the Sikh Guru's? > > > > > > On 17 Dec, 03:16, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The binary reply is 1, but your explication calls for more: > > > > > > The human world has seen many cycles since Zoroaster, and before as > > > > > > well. Since our ancestors became creative, and left the cradle of > > > > > > Africa, cycles of enlightenment and the path toward Unity have > > > > > > dawned > > > > > > and turned round to nights of superstition, injustice and > > > > > > divisiveness. There may have been such cycles before as well: Once > > > > > > all life was single-celled organisms. These joined in colonies, the > > > > > > collective goo supporting each member. Differentiation occurred, > > > > > > parasites became symbiotes, bacteria became organelles, and complex > > > > > > cells formed tissues and organs. In the light of this lengthy > > > > > > evolution of life, the history of man is the cycle of one breath, > > > > > > those aforementioned cycles like heartbeats or eye blinks. > > > > > > The science, history, literature and logics taught to a child of 5 > > > > > > should fit her capacities, but form a basis for lessons in later > > > > > > years. Know-it-all youth are creative and bold, but likely to wreck > > > > > > the car and even die from such ignorant action. Hard lessons can > > > > > > lead > > > > > > to desire for ways that lead to happiness, beyond mere glandular > > > > > > stimulation. > > > > > > I am saying that as we have grown in population and power, hard > > > > > > lessons will force maturity on the species. There is a teaching of > > > > > > recent origin, and relevant light for the darkness of our times. It > > > > > > has spread to all nations. It unites all cultures, all races, all > > > > > > religions in a unity that that fosters diversity. It inspires > > > > > > creative > > > > > > thought, in arts, and crafts, sciences and technology, but tempers > > > > > > these with the wisdom of service to all humankind and to this living > > > > > > world we inhabit. Individuals are urged to earn the means of living > > > > > > through paths of such service. (For me, that would be through the > > > > > > art > > > > > > of the theater, and perhaps as a theoretician's assistant.) > > > > > > “The distinguishing feature that marketh the preeminent > > > > > > character > > > > > > of this Supreme Revelation consisteth in that We have, on the one > > > > > > hand, blotted out from the pages of God’s holy Book whatsoever hath > > > > > > been the cause of strife, of malice and mischief amongst the > > > > > > children > > > > > > of men, and have, on the other, laid down the essential > > > > > > prerequisites > > > > > > of concord, of understanding, of complete and enduring unity.” - > > > > > > Bahá’u’lláh > > > > > > > On Dec 16, 9:02 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Cell, without wishing to sound too skeptical and as ideal as your > > > > > > > presentation is, has not your ‘tree of life’, the knowledge of > > > > > > > radical > > > > > > > unity been known countless times over the course of human history > > > > > > > already, starting with Zoroaster? I ask this in a rather > > > > > > > rhetorical > > > > > > > sense because it appears to be the historical truth, yet somehow, > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > wisdom of the one became polluted as demonstrated by the majority > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > history. In this way, while its truth remains, its awareness > > > > > > > cyclically becomes covered over with the resulting human issues > > > > > > > manifesting. So, in order to ask an actual question of you, are > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > suggesting that a new era, a dawning of unity is upon us, and that > > > > > > > this era will remain rather than come and go? > > > > > > > > On Dec 15, 6:49 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I agree with Muhammad Yunus that “poverty is not part of human > > > > > > > > being”, > > > > > > > > and that it is possible to eliminate poverty. I believe that, > > > > > > > > as the > > > > > > > > population of humans on the planet increases, and as we humans > > > > > > > > gain > > > > > > > > increasing technological power to change the environment (for > > > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > > ill), there will inevitably come a time when it will be > > > > > > > > generally > > > > > > > > recognized that the current patterns of organization of human > > > > > > > > society > > > > > > > > and endeavor are seriously defective. Unfortunately, a severe > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > indisputably man-made global calamity may have to occur before > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > realization occurs. I fear that we may even have be thrown > > > > > > > > into such > > > > > > > > chaos that none of the current systems can even function. In > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > case, I believe that after this chaos, a new system will grow. > > > > > > > > I believe I have seen the seeds of this new system, and it is > > > > > > > > based in > > > > > > > > the knowledge that all of mankind is one: that not only are we > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > equal in a fundamental sense, but that our many differences > > > > > > > > compliment > > > > > > > > each other. That we are all as leaves of the same tree. > > > > > > > > Universal > > > > > > > > education in literature, sciences and arts is a necessary > > > > > > > > component of > > > > > > > > this system. I have also observed, and participated in, a form > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > decision making which creates solutions through the sharing of > > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > until a consensus is reached (the emphasis being on the > > > > > > > > creative part, > > > > > > > > as no one goes into the process attached to any particular > > > > > > > > solution.) > > > > > > > > I will not go into any more details of this system at this time, > > > > > > > > except to say that there are a few villages that have adopted > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > principals of this system and are currently thriving as the > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > work together in cooperation instead of competition. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 9:18 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting view: > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > MUHAMMAD YUNUS: I believe that, totally, poverty is not part > > > > > > > > > of human > > > > > > > > > being, that is my first premise, so if it not part of human > > > > > > > > > being the > > > > > > > > > real human being will emerge some day, it is the stupidity of > > > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > being that created poverty, so stupidity can not go on, the > > > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > > > creativity of human being will take over the stupidity and it > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > completely eliminate it and this is the century when it will > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > And it can be done, it's not a, a kind of a pipe dream or some > > > > > > > > > fantastic thing, it's possible because it's us who make the > > > > > > > > > difference > > > > > > > > > and if we can create the structures to do that; people will > > > > > > > > > raise > > > > > > > > > themselves out of poverty, just like that. Human beings > > > > > > > > > created to do > > > > > > > > > much bigger things than > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
