Ash, that's one point of view I understand !

Neil has railed against Blair, even against the public, including
himself, who couldn't know when he was lying !  I found that to be a
lie, after hearing Blair before the ' commission.'  He was palpably
revealing all his lies.

So, why was Neil revealing Britons as being as stupid as he projected
Blair to be ?

In fact, the committee member, the chief who was riling Blair with his
questions, was a friend ( of mine ) in truth, as I saw him.

Was it because Neil was limiting himself, to a scientific temper, when
all we have to do is to listen with our heart in its right place !

In fact, I am angry at having been led to the wrong view by someone
I'd felt is capable enough not to lie ! ?  But Neil's view of Britons,
in respect of Blair / Bush, was a lie. If not, this committee and
enquiry would not have taken place !

Perhaps, Neil was merely ( over ) compensating for having been taken
for a ride ( by Blair ) !

On Jan 29, 12:05 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> I recall a friend recommending yoga and lucid dreaming, but never saw
> the application or perhaps need that I do today. It cost me sleep but I
> had to read it, thanks Orn!
>
> Many sciences influence my worldview(s) they are not the only thing,
> though I have been known to ex-pand/pound greatly on the philosophy and
> meaning of science. In that sense I may be tempted to use terms like
> scientism but that would incorrectly align myself with many of the
> alternatives. No offense taken Vam, I can appreciate the sentiment. One
> of my favorite sayings, "I'm one of those people who can understand and
> rationalize almost any point of view, but often piss everyone off when
> proposing my own."
>
> On 1/29/2010 1:35 AM, Vamadevananda wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is great, fundamental stuff !
>
> > I related the same method to experiences one is invited to through
> > stages described in the Tibetan Book of The Dead, while reading it a
> > long time ago.
>
> > But, I am afraid, this is not what scientists and empiricists would be
> > able to appreciate, on account of limitations they have conditioned
> > themselves to. As a result, they might find it too uncomfortable, even
> > daunting, barring exceptions !
>
> > On Jan 29, 10:49 am, ornamentalmind<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> >> We have discussed this topic before; however, here Alan presents a
> >> very cogent and insightful view of lucid dreaming and dream yoga. Does
> >> this help with any of your personal 
> >> insights?http://www.tricycle.com/feature/3652-1.html?page=0,0

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