" ... equality ... " It's a huge word ! I wonder how or when you'll " find " it ?
On Feb 1, 12:42 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > My own attitude to homosexuality is boredom, at least since my friend > Jim died. Our standing jokes were that we had founded the male > lesbian society, but couldn't make ends meet, and his habit of giving > me large brown envelopes in public, as he was training me to become a > member of Parliament. Gender issues are so dull I can't see why > anyone can be interested in them. Once one finds equality the rest is > meaningless. > > On 1 Feb, 01:01, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Walter W*nk - (surely not Orn! ed). I can't really be bothered with > > the scriptures themselves Orn - preferring to rely on Francis and > > others who have done the work. I have seen and heard (actually at the > > knee of a Mullah - an exceptionally gentle man I hope is still my > > friend after many years) similar in Islam, especially the need to > > relate to modern conditions (almost like methodological marxism). I'd > > say a bit the same of the hand you have disclosed and am grateful you > > have. Deconstruction gets to a lot of these places, especially in its > > considerations of violence, the 'scratching pen' and so on (and on). > > One biblical passage that haunts me is Numbers 31. Here Moses, by > > modern standards, is a gruesome war criminal (the only ones to get to > > stay alive are the virgin women, surprise, surprise), seen later in > > Norman harrowings and genocides all over before and past the text. > > The Scottish 'Law of Innocents' is in part a response to utterly > > dreadful slayings, and an attempt to regulate them. The idea of a > > religion changing with new knowledge is a good one; I am much less > > concerned with the origin of such thinking than to cherish it and > > regret in despair we have not found means to be in its wider spirit. > > The spirit has been around for eons, in such question as whether Jesus > > owned the clothes he wore, though even these have been turned to > > ghastly political purpose. Blair could no doubt turn such writing to > > reasons to invade Iran! There is great hospitality in such > > interpretations and scholarship. If I can listen as an 'atheist', one > > has to wonder why so many ancient-text thumpers cannot? > > > On 31 Jan, 17:51, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Talk about serendipity! I just came across this article on the > > > facebook page of a recently connected grade school friend. He was one > > > of the brightest people I knew back then. He taught me chess when we > > > were 5. He himself went on to complete seminary training and practiced > > > most of his adult life. Now he is the executive director of a > > > Christian Center. > > > > For the record, I claim to know little about Christianity and do not > > > embrace much of what little I do understand about many of its tenets. > > > I still find this article to be quite clear, well thought out and a > > > clear rebuttal to free thinkers who deny the changing nature of > > > religious thought. Also, in no way should this be construed as me > > > acting as a Christian apologist; rather, it is to, as Neil so deftly > > > pointed out, place all thought under the microscope. > > > >http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-walter-wink > > > > From the above article: > > > > “…What Jesus gives us is a critique of domination in all its forms, a > > > critique that can be turned on the Bible itself. The Bible thus > > > contains the principles of its own correction. We are freed from > > > bibliolatry, the worship of the Bible. It is restored to its proper > > > place as witness to the Word of God. And that word is a Person, not a > > > book…” – from Homosexuality and the Bible > > > by The Rev. Dr. Walter Wink -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
