I'm not referring to falling or flying dreams. Lucid dreams that present a situation in which one is standing on a street that is bustling with people and vehicular traffic amidst a frenzy of other activities also presents an opportunity for the dreamer to enter into a building or board a bus and consciously initiate change within the dream. Within the dream I could decide where I want to go or what I want to do but again the problem being unwarranted awakening from the dream. These are advanced stages of dreaming which I experience quite often. Having conversations with people in a dream is very common for me as well as being aware of the surroundings in which the dream is taking place. It is trying to create interaction between the dream realm and the waking conscious world that is most difficult. Something like if I were to write a note and leave it under a rock at a park in my dream and then find that note the next day in this life. If you have never had dreams like this you wont understand it. A large part of my life is my dream world. It is like another life, as if I am also living in my dreams as well as living here. Sure there is a connection with the physical here and the dream so one could easily wake up sweating with a rapid heart beat or shake about in bed because that is at least one connection that we know exists. The connection of the person in the dream with the person lying in the bed. I had received an electric shock once within a dream and my arm jumped back in bed as I was wakening. I could still feel the physical reaction to getting shocked but there were no wires or electrical devices in the bed so I had to be somewhere else at the time of receiving the shock. The shock had to be real if my arm reacted to it. How much further could I have navigated within the dream if I didn't wake up?
On Feb 3, 9:13 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Long ago I had dreams about falling and would wake to catch myself > about to roll off the edge of the bed so perhaps that is a form of > control. But whose control? The dreamer or the dream?// Another thing- > I wake knowing I have dreamed but the dream is often forgotten. How > does the brain know this? Sometimes the only clue is a nether state > which lasts until I am up and about plus a cup of coffee. > > On Feb 2, 10:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It is not about controlling the dream but of having control within the > > dream. There is a point within the dream that beyond knowing that I > > am dreaming I can have instances of consciousness in decision making > > as to what I want to do in the dream and where I want to go. Problem > > being that just then when I'm about to initiate a personal voluntary > > action within the dream I begin waking up, sometimes gradually but > > most often abruptly, like being ripped out of the place I know I was > > in. > > > On Feb 2, 4:09 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You can't control a sleeping dream- try daydreaming. > > > > On Feb 2, 3:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That dreams are illusory is speculative. A dream can be much more if > > > > only one could stay within it long enough to navigate. One of my > > > > problems with dreams is waking up from them too soon, mainly just when > > > > I'm achieving some control within them. > > > > > On Jan 28, 11:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > We have discussed this topic before; however, here Alan presents a > > > > > very cogent and insightful view of lucid dreaming and dream yoga. Does > > > > > this help with any of your personal > > > > > insights?http://www.tricycle.com/feature/3652-1.html?page=0,0-Hidequotedtext > > > > > - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
