Oh, I manage to mention something to the air as I rise. :-) Off to
Yoga.

On Feb 4, 6:14 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Strange isn't it how differant minds work.  I guess I must remember at
> least 95% of my dreams on waking.  In fact the first words out of my
> mouth upon waking is most offten 'darlin' I have just had a really
> strange dream'.
>
> On 4 Feb, 11:54, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > That would also explain waking in the midst of an orgasm or wet dream-
> > or a charley horse-, I suppose.//Yes, I have been an active particpant
> > in dreams containing people from real life- all very busy with action
> > and dialogue- which I forget quickly on waking.
>
> > On Feb 3, 10:03 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > I'm not referring to falling or flying dreams.  Lucid dreams that
> > > present a situation in which one is standing on a street that is
> > > bustling with people and vehicular traffic amidst a frenzy of other
> > > activities also presents an opportunity for the dreamer to enter into
> > > a building or board a bus and consciously initiate change within the
> > > dream.  Within the dream I could decide where I want to go or what I
> > > want to do but again the problem being unwarranted awakening from the
> > > dream.
> > > These are advanced stages of dreaming which I experience quite often.
> > > Having conversations with people in a dream is very common for me as
> > > well as being aware of the surroundings in which the dream is taking
> > > place.  It is trying to create  interaction between the dream realm
> > > and the waking conscious world that is most difficult.  Something like
> > > if I were to write a note and leave it under a rock at a park in my
> > > dream and then find that note the next day in this life.  If you have
> > > never had dreams like this you wont understand it.  A large part of my
> > > life is my dream world.  It is like another life, as if I am also
> > > living in my dreams as well as living here.
> > > Sure there is a connection with the physical here and the dream so one
> > > could easily wake up sweating with a rapid heart beat or shake about
> > > in bed because that is at least one connection that we know exists.
> > > The connection of the person in the dream with the person lying in the
> > > bed.  I had received an electric shock once within a dream and my arm
> > > jumped back in bed as I was wakening.  I could still feel the physical
> > > reaction to getting shocked but there were no wires or electrical
> > > devices in the bed so I had to be somewhere else at the time of
> > > receiving the shock.  The shock had to be real if my arm reacted to
> > > it.  How much further could I have navigated within the dream if I
> > > didn't wake up?
>
> > > On Feb 3, 9:13 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Long ago I had dreams about falling and would wake to catch myself
> > > > about to roll off the edge of the bed so perhaps that is a form of
> > > > control. But whose control? The dreamer or the dream?// Another thing-
> > > > I wake knowing I have dreamed but the dream is often forgotten. How
> > > > does the brain know this? Sometimes the only clue is a nether state
> > > > which lasts until I am up and about plus a cup of coffee.
>
> > > > On Feb 2, 10:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > It is not about controlling the dream but of having control within the
> > > > > dream.  There is a point within the dream that beyond knowing that I
> > > > > am dreaming I can have instances of consciousness in decision making
> > > > > as to what I want to do in the dream and where I want to go.  Problem
> > > > > being that just then when I'm about to initiate a personal voluntary
> > > > > action within the dream I begin waking up, sometimes gradually but
> > > > > most often abruptly, like being ripped out of the place I know I was
> > > > > in.
>
> > > > > On Feb 2, 4:09 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > You can't control a sleeping dream- try daydreaming.
>
> > > > > > On Feb 2, 3:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > That dreams are illusory is speculative.  A dream can be much 
> > > > > > > more if
> > > > > > > only one could stay within it long enough to navigate. One of my
> > > > > > > problems with dreams is waking up from them too soon, mainly just 
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > I'm achieving some control within them.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 28, 11:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > We have discussed this topic before; however, here Alan 
> > > > > > > > presents a
> > > > > > > > very cogent and insightful view of lucid dreaming and dream 
> > > > > > > > yoga. Does
> > > > > > > > this help with any of your personal 
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