Fear not Vam, I know you too well for umbrage. I thought I was dreaming last night. A Ugandan vicar was urging his congregation to be real men, shag women to become one as god intended and to convert or hang homosexuals. In the dream hinterland, white Xtian fundamentalists were urging abstinence. HIV had become a gift from god to punish the gaylord-demons. Americans were around, claiming not to have funded all this. In crescendo, the vicar was thrusting about the notion that Uganda would demonstrate to the corrupt, spineless white world, just what real men are. I did not wake from this dream, just realised I was watching television. Thinking of homosexual conversion opportunities, not quite as directed by the vicar, though of a distinctly Ugandan type, I directed my dreams to a trip to Lesbos with Francis. It was an exciting dream. As we approached Vam, sitting on a rock with what we presumed a vast tome of ancient erotica, we further assumed the most dreadful perversions, as the site was strewn about with gutted cuttlefish. We increased pace to ask our friend for guidance on the symbolism. 'Ah! My friends', said Vam, smiling gently. 'You are here at last to join me in the great appetites of life'. 'Begorrah!' said Francis, just to symbolize he is Irish and the role of stereotypes in fantasy. Several scantily clad Lesbians flocked around, gathering up the fish (though this may have happened afterwards when the commercial director got the script). We enjoyed the cuttlefish. Vam had been reading a cook book. Aristotle (and who was more of Lesbos than he?) joined us, somewhat miffed to have been converted by Vam on the nature of the cuttlefish liver and its possession of three hearts, though he commented graciously on the gentle spices of Vam's cooking. The film of the dream will be out shortly. An 'indie' of course, made in Bulgaria by a Norwegian director. Strangely, Vam, Francis, Aristotle and myself play no further part after this opening, the rest entirely devoted to scantily clad women discussing philosophy. The working title may stand - 'How to Convert a Lesbian: an exploration of anatomy in the place of Aristotle's Birth'. This will let it through the censorship laws in New Hampshire.
On 4 Feb, 12:21, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, I manage to mention something to the air as I rise. :-) Off to > Yoga. > > On Feb 4, 6:14 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Strange isn't it how differant minds work. I guess I must remember at > > least 95% of my dreams on waking. In fact the first words out of my > > mouth upon waking is most offten 'darlin' I have just had a really > > strange dream'. > > > On 4 Feb, 11:54, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That would also explain waking in the midst of an orgasm or wet dream- > > > or a charley horse-, I suppose.//Yes, I have been an active particpant > > > in dreams containing people from real life- all very busy with action > > > and dialogue- which I forget quickly on waking. > > > > On Feb 3, 10:03 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm not referring to falling or flying dreams. Lucid dreams that > > > > present a situation in which one is standing on a street that is > > > > bustling with people and vehicular traffic amidst a frenzy of other > > > > activities also presents an opportunity for the dreamer to enter into > > > > a building or board a bus and consciously initiate change within the > > > > dream. Within the dream I could decide where I want to go or what I > > > > want to do but again the problem being unwarranted awakening from the > > > > dream. > > > > These are advanced stages of dreaming which I experience quite often. > > > > Having conversations with people in a dream is very common for me as > > > > well as being aware of the surroundings in which the dream is taking > > > > place. It is trying to create interaction between the dream realm > > > > and the waking conscious world that is most difficult. Something like > > > > if I were to write a note and leave it under a rock at a park in my > > > > dream and then find that note the next day in this life. If you have > > > > never had dreams like this you wont understand it. A large part of my > > > > life is my dream world. It is like another life, as if I am also > > > > living in my dreams as well as living here. > > > > Sure there is a connection with the physical here and the dream so one > > > > could easily wake up sweating with a rapid heart beat or shake about > > > > in bed because that is at least one connection that we know exists. > > > > The connection of the person in the dream with the person lying in the > > > > bed. I had received an electric shock once within a dream and my arm > > > > jumped back in bed as I was wakening. I could still feel the physical > > > > reaction to getting shocked but there were no wires or electrical > > > > devices in the bed so I had to be somewhere else at the time of > > > > receiving the shock. The shock had to be real if my arm reacted to > > > > it. How much further could I have navigated within the dream if I > > > > didn't wake up? > > > > > On Feb 3, 9:13 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Long ago I had dreams about falling and would wake to catch myself > > > > > about to roll off the edge of the bed so perhaps that is a form of > > > > > control. But whose control? The dreamer or the dream?// Another thing- > > > > > I wake knowing I have dreamed but the dream is often forgotten. How > > > > > does the brain know this? Sometimes the only clue is a nether state > > > > > which lasts until I am up and about plus a cup of coffee. > > > > > > On Feb 2, 10:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It is not about controlling the dream but of having control within > > > > > > the > > > > > > dream. There is a point within the dream that beyond knowing that I > > > > > > am dreaming I can have instances of consciousness in decision making > > > > > > as to what I want to do in the dream and where I want to go. > > > > > > Problem > > > > > > being that just then when I'm about to initiate a personal voluntary > > > > > > action within the dream I begin waking up, sometimes gradually but > > > > > > most often abruptly, like being ripped out of the place I know I was > > > > > > in. > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 4:09 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You can't control a sleeping dream- try daydreaming. > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 3:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > That dreams are illusory is speculative. A dream can be much > > > > > > > > more if > > > > > > > > only one could stay within it long enough to navigate. One of my > > > > > > > > problems with dreams is waking up from them too soon, mainly > > > > > > > > just when > > > > > > > > I'm achieving some control within them. > > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 11:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We have discussed this topic before; however, here Alan > > > > > > > > > presents a > > > > > > > > > very cogent and insightful view of lucid dreaming and dream > > > > > > > > > yoga. Does > > > > > > > > > this help with any of your personal > > > > > > > > > insights?http://www.tricycle.com/feature/3652-1.html?page=0,0-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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