That would also explain waking in the midst of an orgasm or wet dream- or a charley horse-, I suppose.//Yes, I have been an active particpant in dreams containing people from real life- all very busy with action and dialogue- which I forget quickly on waking.
On Feb 3, 10:03 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not referring to falling or flying dreams. Lucid dreams that > present a situation in which one is standing on a street that is > bustling with people and vehicular traffic amidst a frenzy of other > activities also presents an opportunity for the dreamer to enter into > a building or board a bus and consciously initiate change within the > dream. Within the dream I could decide where I want to go or what I > want to do but again the problem being unwarranted awakening from the > dream. > These are advanced stages of dreaming which I experience quite often. > Having conversations with people in a dream is very common for me as > well as being aware of the surroundings in which the dream is taking > place. It is trying to create interaction between the dream realm > and the waking conscious world that is most difficult. Something like > if I were to write a note and leave it under a rock at a park in my > dream and then find that note the next day in this life. If you have > never had dreams like this you wont understand it. A large part of my > life is my dream world. It is like another life, as if I am also > living in my dreams as well as living here. > Sure there is a connection with the physical here and the dream so one > could easily wake up sweating with a rapid heart beat or shake about > in bed because that is at least one connection that we know exists. > The connection of the person in the dream with the person lying in the > bed. I had received an electric shock once within a dream and my arm > jumped back in bed as I was wakening. I could still feel the physical > reaction to getting shocked but there were no wires or electrical > devices in the bed so I had to be somewhere else at the time of > receiving the shock. The shock had to be real if my arm reacted to > it. How much further could I have navigated within the dream if I > didn't wake up? > > On Feb 3, 9:13 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Long ago I had dreams about falling and would wake to catch myself > > about to roll off the edge of the bed so perhaps that is a form of > > control. But whose control? The dreamer or the dream?// Another thing- > > I wake knowing I have dreamed but the dream is often forgotten. How > > does the brain know this? Sometimes the only clue is a nether state > > which lasts until I am up and about plus a cup of coffee. > > > On Feb 2, 10:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It is not about controlling the dream but of having control within the > > > dream. There is a point within the dream that beyond knowing that I > > > am dreaming I can have instances of consciousness in decision making > > > as to what I want to do in the dream and where I want to go. Problem > > > being that just then when I'm about to initiate a personal voluntary > > > action within the dream I begin waking up, sometimes gradually but > > > most often abruptly, like being ripped out of the place I know I was > > > in. > > > > On Feb 2, 4:09 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You can't control a sleeping dream- try daydreaming. > > > > > On Feb 2, 3:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > That dreams are illusory is speculative. A dream can be much more if > > > > > only one could stay within it long enough to navigate. One of my > > > > > problems with dreams is waking up from them too soon, mainly just when > > > > > I'm achieving some control within them. > > > > > > On Jan 28, 11:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > We have discussed this topic before; however, here Alan presents a > > > > > > very cogent and insightful view of lucid dreaming and dream yoga. > > > > > > Does > > > > > > this help with any of your personal > > > > > > insights?http://www.tricycle.com/feature/3652-1.html?page=0,0-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
