You might just be right about that Don. The song says a lot. On Mar 4, 7:54 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Carpe Diem. This song is right up your alley Slip. > > Aquarius > > When the moon is in the Seventh House > And Jupiter aligns with Mars > Then peace will guide the planets > And love will steer the stars > This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius > Age of Aquarius > Aquarius! > Aquarius! > > Harmony and understanding > Sympathy and trust abounding > No more falsehoods or derisions > Golden living dreams of visions > Mystic crystal revelation > And the mind's true liberation > Aquarius! > Aquarius! > > When the moon is in the Seventh House > And Jupiter aligns with Mars > Then peace will guide the planets > And love will steer the stars > This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius > Age of Aquarius > Aquarius! > Aquarius! > Aquarius! > Aquarius! > > [instrumental and tempo shift] > > Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in, the sunshine in > Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in, the sunshine in > Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in, the sunshine in > > [continue to end with concurrent scat] > > Oh, let it shine, c'mon > Now everybody just sing along > Let the sun shine in > Open up your heart and let it shine on in > When you are lonely, let it shine on > Got to open up your heart and let it shine on in > And when you feel like you've been mistreated > And your friends turn away > Just open your heart, and shine it on in > > -5th Dimension > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it is all pertinent to all of us Arch, the cog in the wheel > > thing. It is no longer a day of lolling in some pastoral scene eating > > wild berries and grapes near the crystal clear stream. Few get to > > realize their dreams and so as you say the rest us are forced to live > > in their dreams. We therefore engross ourselves in the celebrity > > circus and the arenas of sport challenge, somehow through identity > > with them we find some sense of achievement and success. > > I have to say that I don't spend much time in a depressed mode due to > > the fact that, using Don's offering, I schedule my time so that I have > > plenty of it to do what I want, I decide in the morning what I want > > to do for the day and if I don't want to do anything I don't. I get > > many comments at market and other places telling me that I am always > > happy, and this lets me know that it does work. I can see and feel > > the sadness that people live with, the burdens that are suppressed, so > > even if I can give a moment of laughter or just elevate the mood for > > that wee bit of time, I know it may help. I have to say that I don't > > take life all the seriously, I have no expectations based on action as > > I really think that anything can happen at any time. Live today and > > die tomorrow, that is all we can do, the earth may open up and swallow > > us, a bomb may be dropped down, or a truck may just run us down while > > crossing the street, sadly it is now possible that some insane gunman > > may go off on some sniper rampage. If I enjoyed today then I'm a step > > ahead. Many have devoted 30 years to a company and have nothing to > > show for it. > > I have spent a great deal of time in "down time" mode. Sure it cost > > me marriage and lifestyle at times but then again other times proved > > to be more rewarding. We're taking holiday tomorrow and traipsing > > about the hillsides gathering in the scenery, a stop for lunch at a > > micro brewery, some photo taking and who knows what. Let the sun > > shine, its going to be a great day. Oh and try to remember your > > "not" a bee! > > > On Mar 3, 10:51 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You got to a lot that might matter to me above Slip. I suspect I go > >> some way with Orn and certainly recognise what Darkwater is saying. > >> Perhaps strangely for a materialist (only where things start in > >> analysis for me), I think we are forced to live in the dreams of > >> others. > >> I would like to know what 'down time' is - even the 'busy bee' spends > >> most of its life in such, despite our inappropriate metaphor. > > >> On 3 Mar, 15:53, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > In most situations, even professionals are not competent in expressing > >> > this Dark. We each, who care, merely do our best. Looking back over my > >> > lifetime, I now am aware that on numerous occasions, when I thought I > >> > was doing good…the actual result was the opposite. Wisdom is rare. > > >> > On Mar 3, 6:49 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > "These antidotes are in > >> > > fact little more than a better understanding of what we are and what > >> > > our processes are along with our purpose." - Orn > > >> > > I toally agree with this! How does one express this to the one who is > >> > > afflicted though? > >> > > I have had personal relationship(s) in which my mate would fall > >> > > into episodes of deep depression. My initial response to such episodes > >> > > would be to try to "lighten the air" a bit, in order to distract her > >> > > from this rumination. Consequently it was like salt or vinager on a > >> > > wound. So it is when singing songs to a heavy heart I guess. Trying to > >> > > discuss the problem seemed as though it was useless and as if my > >> > > efforts would compound things even more. Despite my empathy, I would > >> > > be accused of "not understanding" and being unable to relate. It > >> > > wasn't long before I became the object of her scorn and the supposed > >> > > cause of her woes even though I had been a temporary remedy early on. > >> > > Drugs helped alot, but I don't do them any more;-)! > > >> > > On Mar 3, 7:05 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Slip, I too agree that depression is ‘normal’ in the sense that it is > >> > > > the common human experience. I also agree that drugs are not > >> > > > indicated > >> > > > unless one wishes to use them. > > >> > > > Beyond this truth though, and without wishing to be evangelical like > >> > > > many here are, I do strongly suggest that there are antidotes to the > >> > > > vast majority of depressive manifestations. These antidotes are in > >> > > > fact little more than a better understanding of what we are and what > >> > > > our processes are along with our purpose. > > >> > > > On Mar 3, 12:49 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > Probably one of the most debilitating aspects of depression is the > >> > > > > implication that it is a bad thing in need of treatment. It is > >> > > > > most > >> > > > > likely just the obverse condition of exuberance, which one would > >> > > > > not > >> > > > > expect to be engaged in full throttle at all times. If there is > >> > > > > cause > >> > > > > for the lapse then we might consider it a natural remedy, a coping > >> > > > > mechanism. I've often slept away several days and emerged like a > >> > > > > hard > >> > > > > drive that's gone through the series of file scans and > >> > > > > defragmentation. The only notion of being depressed comes from the > >> > > > > outside world defining it as such, they sell drugs that way. > >> > > > > Sadness > >> > > > > is normal and a part of our reverence to things gone by or a loss > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > anything important. We've been sold on joy and happiness to the > >> > > > > point > >> > > > > of not recognizing that being down is as necessary. We can't spend > >> > > > > all our time in the awake state, we have to sleep, rest and > >> > > > > rejuvenate, reorganize. This is the primary function of depression > >> > > > > and of course I think it needs a new name. We've been pushed out > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > our bio rhythms for so long by social systems that we forget that > >> > > > > being down is simply natural. There is no longer any time to be > >> > > > > down > >> > > > > because we are in a constant state of motion, one that dictates we > >> > > > > operate routinely and function in a robotic way. The world is > >> > > > > noise. > > >> > > > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > One of the most challenging aspects of studying depression is > >> > > > > > the vast > >> > > > > > amount of contradiction in the literature. Virtually every claim > >> > > > > > comes > >> > > > > > with a contradictory claim, which is also supported by evidence. > >> > > > > > I > >> > > > > > tend to believe this confusion will persist until our > >> > > > > > definitions of > >> > > > > > depression become more precise, so that intense sadness and > >> > > > > > paralyzing, chronic, suicidal despair are no longer lumped > >> > > > > > together in > >> > > > > > the same psychiatric category. (Lehrer) > > >> > > > > > I've been 'depressed' since middle teenage, with some bouts of > >> > > > > > clinical depression, partly associated with trauma. I've had > >> > > > > > some > >> > > > > > periods I'd call madness, and though I have never done anything > >> > > > > > 'serious' have found myself out of control at times in some sort > >> > > > > > of > >> > > > > > desperate way. I can claim some fairly good achievements in such > >> > > > > > periods, but mostly they are debilitating rather than manic > >> > > > > > periods. > >> > > > > > I'm coming out of difficult times at the moment and am almost > >> > > > > > 'champing at the bit', but really screwed by being physically > >> > > > > > crook. > >> > > > > > I'm about to force myself to write and 'get straight' and just > >> > > > > > beginning to feel it will work. Lehrer may help - the blog is > >> > > > > > good. > > >> > > > > > On 2 Mar, 01:41, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > Hi Rigsby, > >> > > > > > > Slip and I have been tangentially discussing this in the Robert > >> > > > > > > Thurman post. We both want to digest it and come back here for > >> > > > > > > discussion. Very interesting. > > >> > > > > > > On 28 Feb, 03:00, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > I meant to respond sooner Riggers, but was too depressed! > >> > > > > > > > True > >> > > > > > > > sadly! There is little not to be depressed about in > >> > > > > > > > contemplation of > >> > > > > > > > the human condition. I would like to believe that a world > >> > > > > > > > more > >> > > > > > > > engaged with truth and knowledge would help prevent this, > >> > > > > > > > but know > >> > > > > > > > many people who don't want to contemplate reality because it > >> > > > > > > > is too > >> > > > > > > > painful. > > >> > > > > > > > On 27 > > ... > > read more »
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