I think I might put this on gravity, if no one minds. I would remove
any persons name of course. let me know in a day or so please if you
object.

Separately: As I messaged Lee yesterday, There are simply far too many
responses made in the last week and I don't want to go through every
thread writing each one down. If you want me to answer or address
something, please message me or list it here. I do not have this group
set to send me e-mails, so please don't accuse me of ignoring you. I
have too much enter my inbox on a daily basis and so I only see
responses here when I log in.

On Mar 27, 4:20 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been terribly busy lately.
>
> An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on
> for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that
> never happens again...
> She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor
> I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was
> almost fawning... ecckkk
> I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients...
> She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than
> be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her
> daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic
> countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape. Two
> people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an
> apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime
> punishable by death according to islam.
>
> I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c
> forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. She
> attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful
> hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss
> what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without
> bruises."
>
> This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while-
> put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock'
> physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam.
>
> To lee:
> I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice
> to exist...
>
> So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose
> love?
>
> Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order
> to give us free will.
>
> That's a really sick and disgusting concept.
>
> Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly
> chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little
> tasteless wafer of good...."
>
> Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or
> leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!"
>
> Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs.
> evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god
> existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and
> experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil"
> entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god-
> myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No
> god needed.
>
> My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples
> every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little
> Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says
> each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their
> daddy.

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