"It's been 105 years since Special Relativity blew apart the false belief in free will by establishing that space and time are part of a larger continuum that comprises them both, when will humanity realise that?"
the not so quick embrace... I think an embrace of this nature requires a foundation for understanding that is rare. I am glad YOU have it. Thanks for sharing. On Apr 1, 9:20 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 28 Mar, 00:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've been terribly busy lately. > > > An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on > > for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that > > never happens again... > > She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor > > I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was > > almost fawning... ecckkk > > I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients... > > She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than > > be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her > > daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic > > countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape. > > It's not just limited to Islamic countries. It happens > everywhere...daily, I'm afraid. > > >Two > > people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an > > apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime > > punishable by death according to islam. > > Yup, so there's the defense for Islam. The actions she was escaping > from were NOT Islamic, they were practiced by people who hapened to be > muslims. I applaud your actions in saving her!! > > > I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c > > forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. > > It wasn't Islam that she was escaping from but a horrible family. > Even you stated above that the practices were punishable by death in > Islam, therefore, you cannot blame Islam--it does NOT promote those > actions, in fact, quite the opposite. > > >She > > attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful > > hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss > > what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without > > bruises." > > > This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while- > > put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock' > > physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam. > > No woman deserves rape and incest. Islam has NOTHING to do with what > happened to her. Even YOU stated that above. > > > > > > > To lee: > > I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice > > to exist... > > > So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose > > love? > > > Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order > > to give us free will. > > > That's a really sick and disgusting concept. > > > Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly > > chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little > > tasteless wafer of good...." > > > Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or > > leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!" > > > Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs. > > evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god > > existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and > > experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil" > > entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god- > > myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No > > god needed. > > > My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples > > every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little > > Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says > > each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their > > daddy. > > Glad you couldn't attack my views. ;-) Good and evil are simply > perceptions. What really exists is a spectrum of events and we place > events on that spectrum based on our perceptions OF those events. > Good and evil are creations of our perceptions and, if we were > omniscient, we would know the truth of it. Heck, even I know the > truth of it and am FAR from omniscient. Anyway, I applaud your > helping her and what you did was, by far, a VERY Islamic act, as > Islam, when practiced PROPERLY, fights oppression. And your act > fought the oppression that this woman was suffering. Good for you!! > > Although, I do take issue with your assumption that you or your > children have free will, as that was thrown into the rubbish bin by > Special Relativity. It's been 105 years since Special Relativity blew > apart the false belief in free will by establishing that space and > time are part of a larger continuum that comprises them both, when > will humanity realise that?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
