On 28 Mar, 00:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been terribly busy lately. > > An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on > for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that > never happens again... > She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor > I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was > almost fawning... ecckkk > I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients... > She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than > be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her > daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic > countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape.
It's not just limited to Islamic countries. It happens everywhere...daily, I'm afraid. >Two > people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an > apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime > punishable by death according to islam. > Yup, so there's the defense for Islam. The actions she was escaping from were NOT Islamic, they were practiced by people who hapened to be muslims. I applaud your actions in saving her!! > I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c > forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. It wasn't Islam that she was escaping from but a horrible family. Even you stated above that the practices were punishable by death in Islam, therefore, you cannot blame Islam--it does NOT promote those actions, in fact, quite the opposite. >She > attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful > hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss > what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without > bruises." > > This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while- > put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock' > physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam. > No woman deserves rape and incest. Islam has NOTHING to do with what happened to her. Even YOU stated that above. > To lee: > I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice > to exist... > > So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose > love? > > Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order > to give us free will. > > That's a really sick and disgusting concept. > > Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly > chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little > tasteless wafer of good...." > > Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or > leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!" > > Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs. > evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god > existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and > experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil" > entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god- > myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No > god needed. > > My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples > every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little > Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says > each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their > daddy. Glad you couldn't attack my views. ;-) Good and evil are simply perceptions. What really exists is a spectrum of events and we place events on that spectrum based on our perceptions OF those events. Good and evil are creations of our perceptions and, if we were omniscient, we would know the truth of it. Heck, even I know the truth of it and am FAR from omniscient. Anyway, I applaud your helping her and what you did was, by far, a VERY Islamic act, as Islam, when practiced PROPERLY, fights oppression. And your act fought the oppression that this woman was suffering. Good for you!! Although, I do take issue with your assumption that you or your children have free will, as that was thrown into the rubbish bin by Special Relativity. It's been 105 years since Special Relativity blew apart the false belief in free will by establishing that space and time are part of a larger continuum that comprises them both, when will humanity realise that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
