“…...we are constantly pulled down by our visceral and basic tendencies (lower self)....” – PSC
I realize that this is a common belief; however, I see a few issues with it. First, the notion of being ‘pulled down’ is troublesome. What exactly is doing the pulling? Is it our instincts to survive? IF so, I’m not so sure the direction being pulled is ‘down’. If not our instincts, then what? Tendencies are mentioned. Yet, how did these come about? >From where did they come? What exactly is their nature?...if anything. IF they ‘exist’, how do they pull us down? IF it is neither of these, then what? I find that with any coherent analysis, that there isn’t anything doing the ‘pulling’. What about you? On Apr 5, 6:56 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > In the last post an evolved Mind was being discussed…here’s what I > think…(it lacks structure...and very naive but please be > patient ...) > The Mind continues to evolve….It is a manifestation of the much larger > Process...The process from which we source the creation of intelligent > life. When one sees oneself in isolation from the Process arise the > existential tendencies... An evolved mind I suppose is one with the > open eye...the Minds eye... (One of the reasons I love this group is > the great name)…to put it simply there is the higher self and the > lower self inside everyone...we are constantly pulled down by our > visceral and basic tendencies (lower self)...and not everyone cares to > realize their higher self..I guess that’s why great thinkers of the > past incorporated their ideas into simple doctrines to follow because > they certainly had an idea of an evolved and enlightened society but > also knew that not every person is a philosopher so it was propagated > as religion a lifestyle which would earn you great spiritual dividends… > of course over time it got corrupted as a means of monopolizing power > over society by a learned few..That is one of the main problems of our > society today…we tend to forget the basic idea behind everything…and > let institutions get bigger than us…what began as an explanation for > unexplained phenomena (science being not so developed then) and an > attempt to enforce some moral code, has become bigger than us…rides > over us and is the plague of our times…a extra and outdated baggage > from the past…it has outgrown its relevance today…similarly the STATE… > which began as an attempt to organize social and political life…from > chiefdoms to countries it has transformed…and with it has grown the > evil of patriotism(not to mention the violence to determine what is > the best way to organize political life)…which makes us enemies of > each other The state is now bigger than us mortal beings…Identities… > ethnicity…language…caste etc… we seem to need them to validate our > existence…the burning question of Who am I…I think I went a little off > the mark… what I want to say is that…The Mind ..Born out of flux > desperately seeks to find permanence(so its attachment to symbols)…as > the mind is the smaller functioning unit of the bigger Whole…it also > tries to establish itself while contributing to the ‘process’…thus > emerges our ego and sense of ‘self’…the Society is a collective body > of the individual units…also seeks the same permanence…and so it > creates institutions and preserves them…Change always comes In some > kind of revolution(similarly In an enlightened individual…he forms his > own individual ideas against what he has been brought up believing )…a > mutilation from the past…but occur it must…because permanency is not > the natural state of things… > There are I think certain universal truths which must be and are > arrived at…these are the key points of our evolution…they are arrived > at through the smaller individual units…taking the form of Einstein or > whatever;-)…like Molly mentioned communication is a very imp. Factor > for growth…the Mind does not grow in isolation…the society is really a > two way street I think…while the individual unit grows and evolves in > relation to it…it also acts as an oppressor of the individual… Don’t > worry Ash I think the symbols will evolve on their own…. > What say my fellows? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
