“A moral code is not innate- it is taught and enforced/rewarded/
punished.” – rigsey

Moral code is innate-people can learn beliefs about morality as they
get on with life too of course.


On Apr 20, 6:19 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> A moral code is not innate- it is taught and enforced/rewarded/
> punished.
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> On Apr 5, 8:26 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > “…some moral code, has become bigger than us…rides over us and is the
> > plague of our times…a extra and outdated baggage from the past…it has
> > outgrown its relevance today…” – PSK
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> > Perhaps I’m blind. I see nothing at all different about “some moral
> > code” today than in the past. Humans innately have a sense of right/
> > wrong…always have…most likely always will. However, I have no doubt
> > that some people tend to focus on the ‘rules’ more than others. This
> > is obvious to those of us who do not share this preoccupation. Other
> > than this all too common imbalance, how are the rules any more of a
> > plague today than in the past?
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> > On Apr 5, 6:56 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > In the last post an evolved Mind was being discussed…here’s what I
> > > think…(it lacks structure...and very naive but please be
> > > patient ...)
> > > The Mind continues to evolve….It is a manifestation of the much larger
> > > Process...The process from which we source the creation of intelligent
> > > life. When one sees oneself in isolation from the Process arise the
> > > existential tendencies... An evolved mind I suppose is one with the
> > > open eye...the Minds eye... (One of the reasons I love this group is
> > > the great name)…to put it simply there is the higher self and the
> > > lower self inside everyone...we are constantly pulled down by our
> > > visceral and basic tendencies (lower self)...and not everyone cares to
> > > realize their higher self..I guess that’s why great thinkers of the
> > > past incorporated their ideas into simple doctrines to follow because
> > > they certainly had an idea of an evolved and enlightened society but
> > > also knew that not every person is a philosopher so it was propagated
> > > as religion a lifestyle which would earn you great spiritual dividends…
> > > of course over time it got corrupted as a means of monopolizing power
> > > over society by a learned few..That is one of the main problems of our
> > > society today…we tend to forget the basic idea behind everything…and
> > > let institutions get bigger than us…what began as an explanation for
> > > unexplained phenomena (science being not so developed then) and an
> > > attempt to enforce some moral code, has become bigger than us…rides
> > > over us and is the plague of our times…a extra and outdated baggage
> > > from the past…it has outgrown its relevance today…similarly the STATE…
> > > which began as an attempt to organize social and political life…from
> > > chiefdoms to countries it has transformed…and with it has grown the
> > > evil of patriotism(not to mention the violence to determine what is
> > > the best way to organize political life)…which makes us enemies of
> > > each other The state is now bigger than us mortal beings…Identities…
> > > ethnicity…language…caste etc… we seem to need them to validate our
> > > existence…the burning question of Who am I…I think I went a little off
> > > the mark… what I want to say is that…The Mind ..Born out of flux
> > > desperately seeks to find permanence(so its attachment to symbols)…as
> > > the mind is the smaller functioning unit of the bigger Whole…it also
> > > tries to establish itself while contributing to the ‘process’…thus
> > > emerges our ego and sense of ‘self’…the Society is a collective body
> > > of the individual units…also seeks the same permanence…and so it
> > > creates institutions and preserves them…Change always comes In some
> > > kind of revolution(similarly In an enlightened individual…he forms his
> > > own individual ideas against what he has been brought up believing )…a
> > > mutilation from the past…but occur it must…because permanency is not
> > > the natural state of things…
> > > There are I think certain universal truths which must be and are
> > > arrived at…these are the key points of our evolution…they are arrived
> > > at through the smaller individual units…taking the form of Einstein or
> > > whatever;-)…like Molly mentioned communication is a very imp. Factor
> > > for growth…the Mind does not grow in isolation…the society is really a
> > > two way street I think…while the individual unit grows and evolves in
> > > relation to it…it also acts as an oppressor of the individual… Don’t
> > > worry Ash I think the symbols will evolve on their own….
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