On 2 Apr, 19:12, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> *that one day* of course
>
{snickers} Yup. You'll be there...don't worry.
> On 2 Apr., 20:09, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > What is cynical about what Slip says? "Appropriately" is the odd one
> > out in your equation. Just as I don't mean to insult Pat, but still
> > haven't given up the hope one day that he'll wake up to reality and
> > stop frightening his children with his semi-dead/ghost state and
> > stories. All in the name of his fixed ideas. More fixed than the
> > bureaucrat's wobbly self-ethos and in that respect more dangerous.
>
> > On 2 Apr., 04:53, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Appropriately cynical as always Slip! : - )
>
> > > On Apr 1, 6:02 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Ya Archy, honor among theives! I didn't think you'd remembered. I
> > > > was talking to my wife today about the case against honesty, cures and
> > > > government function. Basically it boils down to the fact that if
> > > > there were honesty, cures for disease and government functionality,
> > > > the world as we know it would implode.
> > > > Examples:
> > > > I remember when they outlawed Ephedrine from weight loss products and
> > > > I couldn't understand why because it worked. But now I see that they
> > > > really would rather support the medical industry, the trillion dollar
> > > > business, by having fat people see doctors and specialists for their
> > > > diabetes, lap band and gastric bypass surgeries and a multitude of
> > > > other treatment procedures than to allow these people to take a drug
> > > > that will let them lose weight. I also thought about watching the
> > > > Jerry Lewis telethon for Muscular Dystrophy which brings in Million$$$
> > > > every year, for the past 50 years or more. But I was thinking that if
> > > > they did find a cure, which they might have already, what would happen
> > > > to all the people who make a living because of the disease and because
> > > > of the telethon?
> > > > Then you have the government that functions on dysfunction which is
> > > > "job security" for politicians. Crime Pays because millions of people
> > > > are making billions of dollars because of it. You have the police,
> > > > the courts, the lawyers, the stenographers. secretaries, bookkeepers,
> > > > file clerks, the photographers, the prisons, the people who make
> > > > prison clothes, the people who provide the food for the prisons, the
> > > > doctors, psychiatrists, probation officers, parole officers, the
> > > > companies that make bullet proof vests, firearms, ammunition, build
> > > > the prisons, guards, uniforms, I'm running out of breath, etc...
> > > > You get the picture?
> > > > The entire country would collapse if they were to find cures for
> > > > disease and if everyone started to obey every law to the letter and if
> > > > government honestly did what they purport to do.
> > > > We can't do it, we have to be dishonest.
>
> > > > On Apr 1, 6:20 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > In the disgraceful Baby P scandal the head of Haringey child
> > > > > protection was sacked (Shoesmith). Now it appears all kinds of
> > > > > pressure was put on the independent investigators to beef up the case
> > > > > against her by the government. The real truth is likely to be that
> > > > > there is a fatal nexus of bureaucrats and government producing utter
> > > > > rubbish on how all our services are performing, pretty much Slip's
> > > > > 'honour amongst thieves'.
>
> > > > > On 1 Apr, 15:38, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > When I read this, I am relieved to know your children grow up with
> > > > > > another kind of authority.
>
> > > > > > On 1 Apr., 15:30, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On 25 Mar, 23:55, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Have we become almost completely degenerate in terms of hiding
> > > > > > > > routine
> > > > > > > > wrongdoing by people in authority? In the UK our Parliament has
> > > > > > > > clearly become full of the wrong kind of people who rip off
> > > > > > > > expenses
> > > > > > > > and nothing is really being done. A few minor sacrificial
> > > > > > > > lambs have
> > > > > > > > been put up. The Roman Catholic Church has clearly almost
> > > > > > > > encouraged
> > > > > > > > child abuse and this now reaches the Pope, at least in his
> > > > > > > > former
> > > > > > > > enforcement role. It's almost unfair just to pick on these
> > > > > > > > organisations. Our legal system hardly works. Whistleblowers
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > routinely dumped on, despite legislation supposed to support
> > > > > > > > them.
> > > > > > > > Various miscarriages of justice that leave innocent people
> > > > > > > > unprotected
> > > > > > > > and often dead look like the tip of an iceberg, not just a few
> > > > > > > > inevitable cock-ups (no pun, but it fits rather well - they
> > > > > > > > just go
> > > > > > > > on!). Education is broadly failing many. As all this happens,
> > > > > > > > authorities can produce statistics that 'show' targets are
> > > > > > > > being met
> > > > > > > > and the rest.
>
> > > > > > > > Are we now in our own 'Great Leap Forward'?
>
> > > > > > > No, we're on the slide towards the end of the cycle. Without
> > > > > > > giving
> > > > > > > too much away, don't expect the universe to be around for 2200.
> > > > > > > There
> > > > > > > are no unnecessary events in the space-time continuum, so the
> > > > > > > 'trick'
> > > > > > > is to know that and learn from what we do see in it. As long as
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > keep your own house in order, you'll be alright. Plus, even the
> > > > > > > best
> > > > > > > policeman in the world can't police the world. There will be
> > > > > > > terrible
> > > > > > > things and things will get worse, but my faith tells me that all
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > be reversed in the next life. For those with a scientific bent,
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > must accept that for every action there WILL BE an equal and
> > > > > > > opposite
> > > > > > > reaction and put your faith in THAT. As far as 'authority' goes,
> > > > > > > well, there is only One. And to Him we will answer. And those
> > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > have perpetrated things that 'that One' finds intolerable will be
> > > > > > > punished. Have faith, Neil. I know you do anyway, but you get
> > > > > > > frustrated with the lack of care that people exhibit towards one
> > > > > > > another. So do I. That's why I will shake them all with my book.
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