On 27 Apr, 00:01, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Aliens or God? To ask the question is to agree God is not an alien. > That would be like asking: "Aliens or Anna(*)? For God is a proper > noun naming a unique individual, while alien is a common noun naming a > class. So how is God unlike an alien? For one things, if he classic > theistic arguments are correct, the aliens are as much a creature of > God as you or I. >
Exactly. And, of course, who's to say that aliens aren't what God referred to as 'Djinn' in the Qur'an? If THAT equation is correct, that would mean that the chief of the Djinn is, in fact, Iblis/Satan and Hawking is right in thinking we'd be better off avoiding them. > We are fascinated by the prospect of non-human intelligent beings that > are not God. In past it would not be fear of aliens, but fear of > devils (fallen angels). > Thus my statement above. They could be one and the same. > In fact the argument for aliens is a degraded form of the argument for > angels. It is the ontological principle of plenitude applied to space > instead of the hierarchy of being. Listen to Hawking: > Not exactly. Whilst Djinn were made of fire, angels were made of light and men from clay/earth. The underlying material used to support the life structure is different, thus making the differences in how they act, interact and live/die. Light, being photons, is already at the point of being a quanta of E-M energy, which isa great advantage, as it cannot be broken down, thus the angels' immortality. But fire can be put out and we know that we can die. And both Djinn and Men are said to be mortal whereas angels are said to be immortal. > "The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each > containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth > is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved." > > (*) Anna is the proper name of the head of the V > alienshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visitors_(V) > > On Apr 25, 12:33 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It will soon be reported on Discovery Channel that Stephen Hawkings > > warns us to talk to aliens. Now, what I ask myself is, what should we > > fear more: God(s) or aliens? For what reasons? > > >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
