I don't know. You tell me. Was he responsible for the ideas that led to the invention of the nuclear submarine?
On Apr 28, 2:27 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > Jules Vern was a "fictionalist" who could also be considerd a great > scientist as well! Was he not ultimatley responsible for the ideas > that led to the invention of the nuclear submarine?"20,000 Legues > Under the Sea"! Hawking has the mind of the future and yes it is a > miracle! > > On Apr 27, 6:45 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Isn't it a miracle how Hawking still lives with his disease? > > Distinguishing between the different forces that threaten and give > > life is important but strenuous. I understand that it is sometimes > > better to want to avoid communication with them. > > > I find Hawking a much more convincing popular scientist than a popular > > fictionist, btw. > > > On 27 Apr., 18:58, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Arthur C. Clarke's third law is, "Any sufficiently advanced technology > > > will be indistinguishable from magic." > > > "Can we be certain that their magic would do us harm? I would hope > > > that Hawking would agree that a large value for L (a requirement for > > > that magical, star-spanning technology) could also mean that their > > > distant civilization had found a way to stabilize itself in order to > > > survive and grow old. That might require outgrowing any aggressive and > > > belligerent tendencies that may have characterized their youth. > > > > Such an advanced technology might well send explorers whose size and > > > shape we cannot yet imagine to study and examine the diversity of life > > > that evolved elsewhere -- and rather than exploiting us, they might > > > value and support the natural biodiversity of the galaxy." > > > http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/27/tarter.space.life.fears/index.h... > > > Would not a "miracle" be perceived to be an advanced technology or > > > appear as magic. How would one distinguish between that of God(s), > > > aliens,angels or djinn?If such is beyond our understanding/ > > > comprehension?Should we not be wary of all of these? > > > > On Apr 27, 8:01 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 27 Apr, 00:01, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Aliens or God? To ask the question is to agree God is not an alien. > > > > > That would be like asking: "Aliens or Anna(*)? For God is a proper > > > > > noun naming a unique individual, while alien is a common noun naming a > > > > > class. So how is God unlike an alien? For one things, if he classic > > > > > theistic arguments are correct, the aliens are as much a creature of > > > > > God as you or I. > > > > > Exactly. And, of course, who's to say that aliens aren't what God > > > > referred to as 'Djinn' in the Qur'an? If THAT equation is correct, > > > > that would mean that the chief of the Djinn is, in fact, Iblis/Satan > > > > and Hawking is right in thinking we'd be better off avoiding them. > > > > > > We are fascinated by the prospect of non-human intelligent beings that > > > > > are not God. In past it would not be fear of aliens, but fear of > > > > > devils (fallen angels). > > > > > Thus my statement above. They could be one and the same. > > > > > > In fact the argument for aliens is a degraded form of the argument for > > > > > angels. It is the ontological principle of plenitude applied to space > > > > > instead of the hierarchy of being. Listen to Hawking: > > > > > Not exactly. Whilst Djinn were made of fire, angels were made of > > > > light and men from clay/earth. The underlying material used to > > > > support the life structure is different, thus making the differences > > > > in how they act, interact and live/die. Light, being photons, is > > > > already at the point of being a quanta of E-M energy, which isa great > > > > advantage, as it cannot be broken down, thus the angels' immortality. > > > > But fire can be put out and we know that we can die. And both Djinn > > > > and Men are said to be mortal whereas angels are said to be immortal. > > > > > > "The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each > > > > > containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth > > > > > is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved." > > > > > > (*) Anna is the proper name of the head of the V > > > > > alienshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visitors_(V) > > > > > > On Apr 25, 12:33 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It will soon be reported on Discovery Channel that Stephen Hawkings > > > > > > warns us to talk to aliens. Now, what I ask myself is, what should > > > > > > we > > > > > > fear more: God(s) or aliens? 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