"How would one distinguish between that of ... aliens,angels or djinn?". Treat them as objects of philosophical thought, independent of the question of existence. Begin with term definitions. What is an angel? What is an alien?
Now per Clarke's third law "any sufficiently advanced technology" we learn something. Aliens are thought of as minds dependent on matter. As a result, they share at least some of our human limits. Deprive him of his technology, the alien foe is cut down to size. Deprive him of the parcel of matter his mind directly controls, he is utterly powerless. In contrast, angels are minds not dependent on matter. As a result their powers range far beyond those of any extraterrestrial. They are extra-cosmological. Satan vs Predator? Please. No contest. The weakest pure intellect could crush the entire spatio-temporal universe to a pea. On Apr 27, 9:58 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > Arthur C. Clarke's third law is, "Any sufficiently advanced technology > will be indistinguishable from magic." > "Can we be certain that their magic would do us harm? I would hope > that Hawking would agree that a large value for L (a requirement for > that magical, star-spanning technology) could also mean that their > distant civilization had found a way to stabilize itself in order to > survive and grow old. That might require outgrowing any aggressive and > belligerent tendencies that may have characterized their youth. > > Such an advanced technology might well send explorers whose size and > shape we cannot yet imagine to study and examine the diversity of life > that evolved elsewhere -- and rather than exploiting us, they might > value and support the natural biodiversity of the galaxy." > http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/27/tarter.space.life.fears/index.h... > Would not a "miracle" be perceived to be an advanced technology or > appear as magic. How would one distinguish between that of God(s), > aliens,angels or djinn?If such is beyond our understanding/ > comprehension?Should we not be wary of all of these? > > On Apr 27, 8:01 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 27 Apr, 00:01, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Aliens or God? To ask the question is to agree God is not an alien. > > > That would be like asking: "Aliens or Anna(*)? For God is a proper > > > noun naming a unique individual, while alien is a common noun naming a > > > class. So how is God unlike an alien? For one things, if he classic > > > theistic arguments are correct, the aliens are as much a creature of > > > God as you or I. > > > Exactly. And, of course, who's to say that aliens aren't what God > > referred to as 'Djinn' in the Qur'an? If THAT equation is correct, > > that would mean that the chief of the Djinn is, in fact, Iblis/Satan > > and Hawking is right in thinking we'd be better off avoiding them. > > > > We are fascinated by the prospect of non-human intelligent beings that > > > are not God. In past it would not be fear of aliens, but fear of > > > devils (fallen angels). > > > Thus my statement above. They could be one and the same. > > > > In fact the argument for aliens is a degraded form of the argument for > > > angels. It is the ontological principle of plenitude applied to space > > > instead of the hierarchy of being. Listen to Hawking: > > > Not exactly. Whilst Djinn were made of fire, angels were made of > > light and men from clay/earth. The underlying material used to > > support the life structure is different, thus making the differences > > in how they act, interact and live/die. Light, being photons, is > > already at the point of being a quanta of E-M energy, which isa great > > advantage, as it cannot be broken down, thus the angels' immortality. > > But fire can be put out and we know that we can die. And both Djinn > > and Men are said to be mortal whereas angels are said to be immortal. > > > > "The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each > > > containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth > > > is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved." > > > > (*) Anna is the proper name of the head of the V > > > alienshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visitors_(V) > > > > On Apr 25, 12:33 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It will soon be reported on Discovery Channel that Stephen Hawkings > > > > warns us to talk to aliens. Now, what I ask myself is, what should we > > > > fear more: God(s) or aliens? For what reasons? > > > > >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
