'Not this, not this' is again a concept to destroy itself and reach
'Not other than this' (to put in words what cannot be)

On Jun 1, 1:17 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 29 May, 09:55, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It seems the way I came across to this Group, the ideas and views I
> > presented, have affected some people. Pat may be true in saying that
> > he'd been thus ' helped.' I do remember communicating with a few
> > others through mail.
>
> As for me, your 'help' was very material.  In fact not just in
> material substance to my ideas but as material as it gets.
>
> > But my query is : so what ?  ...  not to dismiss, but to remind
> > ourselves of the duty to go back to our de - anchored view or
> > perception, or continue with the search, even as we live it out in the
> > world, live out the mind and the concept structures that constitute
> > us ...  with the desire to know, reflect and awaken into greater
> > peace, from where more loving, effective and fulfilling, and
> > regenerative actions proceed.
>
> Sounds more like a re-anchoring than a true de-anchoring.  Not that
> there's anything wrong with that, rather, indeed, great merit.  But
> see it for what it is...a re-anchoring.  And ANY anchor will weigh you
> down keeping you where you are...in a sea of 'so what'.
>
> > I have no doubt that all well - meaning people are doing the same, in
> > their own ways, to consequences appropriate to their own preoccupying
> > natures and exigencies, that mean and form us in the middle of things.
> > Most are vivacious, cooling off their minds from time to time than
> > knowing it. But they are preferable than those who do not rise and
> > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort,
> > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only
> > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance.
>
> A nice oblique.  I still find it bordering on ad hominem.  But VERY
> cloaked and oblique...I appreciate your style and lingering 'need' to
> re-affirm your commitment.
>
> > Few indeed see the measure of our acceptance of diversity, and of the
> > plurality about us, as a definite KPI of love, peace and wisdom in our
> > lives. Because for it to be, much of our earned spiritual power,
> > happiness and freedom, need to be subsumed in the practice of ' not
> > this,' ' not this.'
>
> Except if the 'not this' happens to be your sacred view.  Rather,
> that's when 'neti' MUST apply.  And, yes, I still do this myself, as a
> refining fire before the rise of the next phoenix of refined thought.
>
> > The destination is without all concept structures, of oneself and of
> > the other(s).
>
> Except 'neti'.  That, too, is a structure and, by its very call must
> also be thrown away.

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