Rigs, it isn't just a concept, as it is in our everyday life ! People like you and I battle with it, more or less, in our interactions and relatedness with other people, at least in our evaluations if not hand - to - hand.
More importantly, we battle with our own, in ourself. Some in ignorance, some with seriousness, some more purposefully, and some more effectively. With a few, it's past. " ... Church made the thought of evil triumphant a heresy ... " yeah, until Marquis de Sade came along and overturned the pretty rule. Imagine the blasphemy, at the time in 16th Century France ! On May 30, 6:31 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > THe religious concept of ther eternal battle between good and evil has > been around forever- see Zororastrianism, for example. I think the > early Church made the thought of evil triumphant a heresy since it > would put paradise at risk. What do you think? > > On May 30, 2:51 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You seem to be speaking of darkness in life, in the human order and > > fates all about us, and of your discomfort or fears of it ! > > > The Devi sutra says : ... ( You are ) ( established as or evident in ) > > the great ( all consuming darkness of ) night ... > > > On May 30, 10:01 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > yeah..chandnibar is one dark movie... > > > > On 5/30/10, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Take, for instance, this matter about ' faith.' With all manner of cut > > > > and dry approaches converging, painting it as black or white, yes or > > > > no, man and God, intellectual and mental or emotional ... it just > > > > makes me wonder if people understand what it is they are talking of ! > > > > > Madhur Bhandarkar, a film director of some eminence, shares what faith > > > > is, as it was, as it worked, in his life. He'd made his first ' > > > > Trishakti,' a big budget film then, which bombed on the box office. > > > > With the public treatment that followed, the avoidance he faced, the > > > > humiliations he experienced, his * confidence * lay in tatters, but > > > > not his faith ... on God, something external, on himself, working > > > > within, such as it is difficult to distinguish the external from the > > > > internal, God from his self. > > > > > And, many months later, he came back, with his faith, getting the > > > > support of few individuals, to put together ' Chandni Bar.' It's > > > > history since ! > > > > > What do people wish to confirm or deny about such faith, the > > > > phenomenon, as it is with us, as it works ? It just is, take it or > > > > leave it ! There are few finer individuals than Madhur, in terms of > > > > cinematic sensibilities. > > > > > The same with ' ego.' Or, ' egotistic ' aplomb we find amongst us. My > > > > observation is that those who achieve little with themselves, not > > > > necessarily in terms of name or money, are the most affected by this > > > > disease ! Those who keep improving, continue to discover, germinating > > > > their own better self, are relatively free of the malaise, are more > > > > rounded, understanding and peaceful beings. > > > > > On May 29, 5:46 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > you are right about structures...we have to construct and de-construct > > > > > continously...i guess its not about the destination but the > > > > journey...how > > > > > can we ever be sure of wat the destination is.... > > > > > > On 5/29/10, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It seems the way I came across to this Group, the ideas and views I > > > > > > presented, have affected some people. Pat may be true in saying that > > > > > > he'd been thus ' helped.' I do remember communicating with a few > > > > > > others through mail. > > > > > > > But my query is : so what ? ... not to dismiss, but to remind > > > > > > ourselves of the duty to go back to our de - anchored view or > > > > > > perception, or continue with the search, even as we live it out in > > > > > > the > > > > > > world, live out the mind and the concept structures that constitute > > > > > > us ... with the desire to know, reflect and awaken into greater > > > > > > peace, from where more loving, effective and fulfilling, and > > > > > > regenerative actions proceed. > > > > > > > I have no doubt that all well - meaning people are doing the same, > > > > > > in > > > > > > their own ways, to consequences appropriate to their own > > > > > > preoccupying > > > > > > natures and exigencies, that mean and form us in the middle of > > > > > > things. > > > > > > Most are vivacious, cooling off their minds from time to time than > > > > > > knowing it. But they are preferable than those who do not rise and > > > > > > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort, > > > > > > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only > > > > > > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance. > > > > > > > Few indeed see the measure of our acceptance of diversity, and of > > > > > > the > > > > > > plurality about us, as a definite KPI of love, peace and wisdom in > > > > > > our > > > > > > lives. Because for it to be, much of our earned spiritual power, > > > > > > happiness and freedom, need to be subsumed in the practice of ' not > > > > > > this,' ' not this.' > > > > > > > The destination is without all concept structures, of oneself and of > > > > > > the other(s).- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
