Arrogance can be offputting.  My experience is, that it is usually, in
one way or another, shattered by humility.  Experience has a way of
giving this to us in the most surprising ways.

On May 31, 3:27 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> " But how do we know that someone else is not just exploring a
> particular phase in their overall integrity, and may find something
> tomorrow to move them beyond ?"
>
> As PSK said, by the rigidity, definitiveness and finality in one's
> public declarations. The evangelists and extremists do that, so do the
> doom - sayers !  It is the damage by such declarations that must be
> preempted, if we may. The moving beyond, as the 2012 doom sayers
> certainly will, is in the future, having nothing to mitigate the
> damages and scarring one is causing today.
>
> " Why is it important to judge a person's view as closed or open ?"
>
> Because closed views are like stagnant, unreplenished, waters ...
> filthy and poisonous !  The open view is above all about the awareness
> of what is factual, experiential, deductive or extrapolatory, belief
> however reasonable to oneself, and conjectural. It's important to keep
> a hold on oneself, and not miss out or obfuscate these qualifying
> truths pertaining to our thoughts.
>
> Once thoughts are shared in such open spirit, we do not consider
> ourself and our thought as privileged or overridingly more important
> than that of other ( well meaning or like endowed ) individuals. You'd
> find the dialogues which then proceed to be relatively free of
> desperation and violence, not to speak of the human ' joys, laughters
> and flirtations ' fostered by our readiness to appreciate the '
> meanings ' of what our interlocutors offer. In short, we remain human
> amongst others ...  not seekers or claimants of privileged status or
> position.
>
> On May 30, 10:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "those who do not rise and
> > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort,
> > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only
> > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance."
>
> > How can we possibly judge whether someone else is doing as you say
> > here, or merely in the midst of current exploration and integration?
> > After all, we all take our studies in phases. Being open and in a
> > state of wonder is important, I agree.  But how do we know that
> > someone else is not just exploring a particular phase in their overall
> > integrity, and may find something tomorrow to move them beyond?  Why
> > is it important to judge a person's view as closed or open?
>
> > On May 29, 4:55 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > It seems the way I came across to this Group, the ideas and views I
> > > presented, have affected some people. Pat may be true in saying that
> > > he'd been thus ' helped.' I do remember communicating with a few
> > > others through mail.
>
> > > But my query is : so what ?  ...  not to dismiss, but to remind
> > > ourselves of the duty to go back to our de - anchored view or
> > > perception, or continue with the search, even as we live it out in the
> > > world, live out the mind and the concept structures that constitute
> > > us ...  with the desire to know, reflect and awaken into greater
> > > peace, from where more loving, effective and fulfilling, and
> > > regenerative actions proceed.
>
> > > I have no doubt that all well - meaning people are doing the same, in
> > > their own ways, to consequences appropriate to their own preoccupying
> > > natures and exigencies, that mean and form us in the middle of things.
> > > Most are vivacious, cooling off their minds from time to time than
> > > knowing it. But they are preferable than those who do not rise and
> > > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort,
> > > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only
> > > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance.
>
> > > Few indeed see the measure of our acceptance of diversity, and of the
> > > plurality about us, as a definite KPI of love, peace and wisdom in our
> > > lives. Because for it to be, much of our earned spiritual power,
> > > happiness and freedom, need to be subsumed in the practice of ' not
> > > this,' ' not this.'
>
> > > The destination is without all concept structures, of oneself and of
> > > the other(s).- Hide quoted text -
>
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