" But how do we know that someone else is not just exploring a particular phase in their overall integrity, and may find something tomorrow to move them beyond ?"
As PSK said, by the rigidity, definitiveness and finality in one's public declarations. The evangelists and extremists do that, so do the doom - sayers ! It is the damage by such declarations that must be preempted, if we may. The moving beyond, as the 2012 doom sayers certainly will, is in the future, having nothing to mitigate the damages and scarring one is causing today. " Why is it important to judge a person's view as closed or open ?" Because closed views are like stagnant, unreplenished, waters ... filthy and poisonous ! The open view is above all about the awareness of what is factual, experiential, deductive or extrapolatory, belief however reasonable to oneself, and conjectural. It's important to keep a hold on oneself, and not miss out or obfuscate these qualifying truths pertaining to our thoughts. Once thoughts are shared in such open spirit, we do not consider ourself and our thought as privileged or overridingly more important than that of other ( well meaning or like endowed ) individuals. You'd find the dialogues which then proceed to be relatively free of desperation and violence, not to speak of the human ' joys, laughters and flirtations ' fostered by our readiness to appreciate the ' meanings ' of what our interlocutors offer. In short, we remain human amongst others ... not seekers or claimants of privileged status or position. On May 30, 10:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > "those who do not rise and > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort, > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance." > > How can we possibly judge whether someone else is doing as you say > here, or merely in the midst of current exploration and integration? > After all, we all take our studies in phases. Being open and in a > state of wonder is important, I agree. But how do we know that > someone else is not just exploring a particular phase in their overall > integrity, and may find something tomorrow to move them beyond? Why > is it important to judge a person's view as closed or open? > > On May 29, 4:55 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It seems the way I came across to this Group, the ideas and views I > > presented, have affected some people. Pat may be true in saying that > > he'd been thus ' helped.' I do remember communicating with a few > > others through mail. > > > But my query is : so what ? ... not to dismiss, but to remind > > ourselves of the duty to go back to our de - anchored view or > > perception, or continue with the search, even as we live it out in the > > world, live out the mind and the concept structures that constitute > > us ... with the desire to know, reflect and awaken into greater > > peace, from where more loving, effective and fulfilling, and > > regenerative actions proceed. > > > I have no doubt that all well - meaning people are doing the same, in > > their own ways, to consequences appropriate to their own preoccupying > > natures and exigencies, that mean and form us in the middle of things. > > Most are vivacious, cooling off their minds from time to time than > > knowing it. But they are preferable than those who do not rise and > > merely become adept, great adepts but chilling like lords Voldemort, > > dedicated to a specific concept - structure that is deified but only > > because it assures one's own overriding self - importance. > > > Few indeed see the measure of our acceptance of diversity, and of the > > plurality about us, as a definite KPI of love, peace and wisdom in our > > lives. Because for it to be, much of our earned spiritual power, > > happiness and freedom, need to be subsumed in the practice of ' not > > this,' ' not this.' > > > The destination is without all concept structures, of oneself and of > > the other(s).
