The emotions could be a "front" for a woman's need for security and protection- especially if there are children involved. It's more acceptable to tuck these needs under the mantle of love. Romantic "Love" was invented by the troubadors and continue as a mass marketing ploy in current times- prior to that families had the say in pairings- mostly for practical/religious reasons.// Older men are drawn to younger women in part thinking they will have a free nurse. :-) They also need youth to remember their own- however misty and foggy. I have long thought that adultery is more of a male contest and the woman is incidental and many relationships are little more than a rebellious reaction against parents.//Anyway, things certainly get stranger and stranger ...one beau is in a nursing home and another has spent the last five weeks in ICU! Male neighbors in their 50's-70's are gradually falling apart and the elder ones walk with a creak in their bones.//I think I must have used up my allotment of lovers although hardware stores are a temptation and am often tempted to put one of those sweethearts into my cart- same at the supermarket. Anyway, given the luncheon scuttlebutt of married women, I no longer think the grass is greener. Actually, much of my sympathy goes to males who must deal with liberated militant feminists- maybe because I have three grown sons and a son-in-law. That's another myth about single mothers- my children are adjusted and happy while I have watched "perfect couples" endure many problems with their mates and children.//There are other outlets for lust and libido besides sex...
On Jun 25, 9:29 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess depending on how fast you want to travel it could be both! I' > have been reluctant to reply to this thread but I do share some of > your views PSK. Truth is that I have been married for close to 20 > years now but I have not lived with my wife for clos to 5 years. We > are both much happier than we were when we lived together. I have had > a few long term relationships since and they were just too much for me > personally. I have a GF now and she wants to pin me down, I feel > smothered. We lived together for a while and I wound up excomunicating > her from the solice of my abode. We are still 'together' but during > the course of our 1 year relationship I have had (and still do have) a > few different partners including her best friend who has shared our > bed on different occasions. She want's monagamy until we GET MARRIED! > Imagine that! I'm still married to the mother of my children and I > don't see that changing. Polyamorous relationships ARE possible but it > takes complete transparancy and a strong commitment to your > 'significant' other. I, however transparent I may be, can only be > commited to being a father and a good friend! I love her and all of > the women who I have 'known' equally. The love that some women require > I cannot and will not provide. Too emotional and without logic! Imho, > being 'in love' is, as Arch says, a fairy tale. > > On Jun 25, 5:33 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thats the beauty isnt it..our own separatre roads..running parrallel to some > > at some point departing ..reconnecting again...intersecting with some...or > > is it more like a river... > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM, vamadevananda > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > You have to take your own journey forward, your way, with your desires > > > and ideas, and your suppositions or beliefs. That learning curve can > > > hardly be progressed upon by wishing, opinionation or argumentation on > > > a discussion forum. Make your choices, have the experience, and know > > > and conclude for yourself ! > > > > I've stated my conclusions, from my experience and understanding. > > > > On Jun 25, 11:19 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > and is it not possible to celebrate that oneness in the multitudes.. why > > > > settle down.. i do not say.. have a string of affairs...wat i am saying > > > here > > > > is.. that completeness can come by sharing with more than one.. two does > > > not > > > > always have to form a single unit.. it can be three or four or > > > watever...wat > > > > we are told mostly.. there is the one for you...but that is not wat i > > > want > > > > to believe nor will i believe it.. it is circumstances that make us > > > settle > > > > for one... > > > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:09 PM, vamadevananda <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > The point, Kid, is in this oneness we see everywhere, as in apparent > > > > > unit systems such as you and I, a pond or mountain, a pig and a tree, > > > > > atom or organs. There is one - ness, unity, evident in each > > > > > individuation, having a form and qualities, properties and aspects, > > > > > character or personality ... individualised being. > > > > > > The diversity of such ' ones ' is mind boggling. But we come to see > > > > > their interconnections as we widen our scale of view, over space and > > > > > time. And lo, we discover other ' units ' in biospheres, Himalayas, > > > > > oceans, continents ... earth, solar systems, galaxies ... universe. > > > > > The universe is the One ... Universe. > > > > > > In the context of your post, ALL of us have problems with settling > > > > > down with one, or as One. But since they are each in the same line of > > > > > truth, some of us see the merit in each, try hard to retain in memory > > > > > all the time, untill the segregating or dissipating forces in our > > > > > psychic world relent and let our experience and understanding > > > > > complete. > > > > > > I have spoken of our higher nature and I am partial towards it. That's > > > > > when we are comfortable with one, as one. Studies in clinical > > > > > psychology and psychosomatics, yoga and meditation, confirm the > > > > > wellness it offers. That leaves you free and uncluttered, happy and > > > > > good. Even officials in the police department respect that. > > > > > > At any point in time, not everybody is capable of it; some might not > > > > > want it. And many are not aware of it, at least enough to choose > > > > > it ! > > > > > > On Jun 24, 2:36 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > and your point is?? > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 1:33 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Do you know what a system ( closed or open ) is, Kid ? > > > > > > > > The Universe is a system ( not sure if it closed or open ), in > > > which > > > > > > > everything else is included. It is One, quite apart from each > > > > > > > being > > > or > > > > > > > all beings it includes, not excluding the ones now or yet > > > unmanifest ! > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:26 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a hard time believing when someone tells me that they > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > found the one... what does it mean anyway..The one.. why does it > > > > > thave > > > > > > > > to be one...I believe that people can and do fall in love with > > > more > > > > > > > > than one person at the same time...and that is why i am opposed > > > to > > > > > > > > marriage as an institution...a promise to be with each other > > > > > > > > forever!...I think open relationships are much better..there is > > > no > > > > > > > > emotional burden...Also sexual and emotional intimacy does not > > > always > > > > > > > > have to be in one single package.. i do not see adultery as > > > something > > > > > > > > horrible...and i really resented the way media made an example > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Tiger woods and his many affairs...so wat he slept with many > > > women.. > > > > > > > > its not like they didnt know who he was and that he was > > > married...The > > > > > > > > fact that religion penetrated and dictated every aspect of > > > individual > > > > > > > > lives still shows its effects...sex is something sacred and at > > > the > > > > > > > > same time tabboed(although some countries have come to take > > > liberal > > > > > > > > views there are still many orthodox societies)... its a natural > > > > > > > > instinct why make something else out of it...its like > > > > > > > > hunger..The > > > > > more > > > > > > > > you try to regulate it the more you pervert it...the fact that > > > > > > > > teenagers are told to abstain should only be because of health > > > > > reasons > > > > > > > > not because premarital sex is a sin...It was because that > > > religion > > > > > > > > first dictated that homosexuality is immoral that subsequent > > > legal > > > > > > > > bans on it followed.. and it is still so ingrained in society > > > that > > > > > > > > most homosexuals have a hard life..only because of one aspect of > > > > > their > > > > > > > > individuality... As for monogamy i really dont think it is a > > > > > universal > > > > > > > > truth...i mean it was fine when the mortality rate was around 50 > > > you > > > > > > > > could stick around with one.. but things are changing... And > > > > > > > > with > > > the > > > > > > > > society must evolve its institutions and the values related to > > > these > > > > > > > > institutions ... So after all this rambling all id like to say > > > > > > > > is > > > > > that > > > > > > > > the society should rethink its basic elements which it takes for > > > > > > > > granted ...i dont mean to offend all you happily married people > > > out > > > > > > > > there.. just a private opinion.. and I'd like to know wat you > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > think..- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > \--/ Peace > > > -- > > \--/ Peace- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
