I agree with that notion- I don't care much about someone hitting a dog as an example of love and devotion. There's enough cruelty to animals, women and children without dragging them into an example of love. I also liked the thought that love is a verb, i.e. active.
On Jul 5, 11:17 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow! Sharing the same sense of humour is a great basis for a love > relationship. > > On 5 Jul., 17:16, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That, in fact, was the first analogy I had ever given about what love > > is! My wife, before we were married, asked me if I knew what love is > > and I replied; "Love is like a boy and his dog and even though the boy > > may become angry and hit the dog, the dog will still come to him and > > though the dog may bite the boy, he will still pet him and scratch him > > behind the ears." > > > On Jul 5, 4:21 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Between those two degrees there is a wiggle room of grays- some merely > > > symbolic, some active and real while others. hesitant shadows. Few > > > achieve the devotional stature of a dog :-) > > > > On Jul 2, 9:23 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We are lucky and that is what I try to impress upon others... love is > > > > a choice and not a feeling. Much different from infatuation and the > > > > pink clouds where everything is fluffy and light. When making the > > > > conscious choice to 'be in love' with someone (as if thats a choice) > > > > we are choosing all the heavy baggage and BS as well. I don't think I > > > > have ever chosen NOT to love anyone but I have selected the degrees of > > > > love I wish to assert (ie. "No, you carry that!" or "Let me help you > > > > with that"). Being 'in love' there are only two degrees; "I love you" > > > > or "I hope you die" :D > > > > > On Jul 1, 8:34 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with you. Aren't we lucky to have that choice? > > > > > > On Jun 30, 3:16 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Life sometimes plays out like a novel, different twists and turns. > > > > > > Nothing like an ironic and tragic ending! At any time we may put the > > > > > > book down and pick up a different one that's more agreeable and life > > > > > > is such as well. > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 9:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > But thinking more about this- why were you attracted to these > > > > > > > women to > > > > > > > begin with? Afterall, a label might just be a fable. It can be > > > > > > > like a > > > > > > > "get out of jail" card, I suppose, but doesn't really solve much > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the supposedly "sane" partner.//I wrote lyric poetry for a while > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > it had its own music without the notes- a percussion?//Keep the > > > > > > > faith, > > > > > > > Darkwater! Lord- I was so enchanted and amazed to read a book the > > > > > > > last > > > > > > > couple of days- at first. By the end I was shattered and probably > > > > > > > won't read the others I've reserved at the library. Reminds me of > > > > > > > love! :-) > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 7:48 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, both music and words come to me like getting struck > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > lightning. Wakes me up out of a sound sleep and I have to grab > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > guitar and a pad and paper.. Other times I'll start with a tune > > > > > > > > and it > > > > > > > > can take months or even years before I write the lyrics. If I > > > > > > > > write > > > > > > > > lyrics, though, there is already a tune, in my head if not a > > > > > > > > comleted > > > > > > > > composition. I think that out of all the women I have been > > > > > > > > with, there > > > > > > > > might be one or two that had their stuff together but again, I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > just 'fun to play with' for a while. The rest, if not already > > > > > > > > clinically diagnosed, they should be! The only long term > > > > > > > > relationships I've had were with total nut bags. :P I can only > > > > > > > > claim > > > > > > > > responsibilty for one of them though. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 8:02 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I used to liken it to the "Perils of Pauline" because I > > > > > > > > > seemed to > > > > > > > > > escape like that old silent film drama. Now, I consider my > > > > > > > > > life as an > > > > > > > > > interesting one- one I have tried to make sense of and I > > > > > > > > > think I > > > > > > > > > succeeded in many ways- but I'll die anyway! :-) I think > > > > > > > > > everyday of > > > > > > > > > those who have been caught up in war or sub-human conditions > > > > > > > > > and try > > > > > > > > > to be grateful and humble. My troubles and turmoil are/were > > > > > > > > > miniscule.//I tried to write lyrics for a composer friend but > > > > > > > > > found it > > > > > > > > > hard to write to his competed music- I think it's easier to > > > > > > > > > shape the > > > > > > > > > music to words- how about you?//I quit drinking nearly a year > > > > > > > > > ago and > > > > > > > > > am much happier with life and others. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 8:07 am, DarkwaterBlight > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that you bring up the point of 'creator types'! > > > > > > > > > > I'm a song > > > > > > > > > > writer/musician and I have been greatly influenced by my > > > > > > > > > > relationships > > > > > > > > > > in my music and writing. It seems when there is much > > > > > > > > > > turmoil the music > > > > > > > > > > and lyrics flow. Vam is correct in saying that it's not > > > > > > > > > > possible to > > > > > > > > > > succeed in turning our emotions off and truly that was > > > > > > > > > > never my intent > > > > > > > > > > but as a defense mechanism I have learned to stuff them. It > > > > > > > > > > proves to > > > > > > > > > > be detrimental in some ways, particularly in writing. I > > > > > > > > > > have blocked > > > > > > > > > > much of my muse in trying to minimize the drama. Truth is > > > > > > > > > > that life is > > > > > > > > > > just that, a set in which we all play out our own dramas. I > > > > > > > > > > was once > > > > > > > > > > told by a woman I dated that I love drama and created it. I > > > > > > > > > > perceived > > > > > > > > > > it as her projecting her own tendencies on me ut she may > > > > > > > > > > have been > > > > > > > > > > correct to some extent. I did alot of writing around that > > > > > > > > > > time! LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 5:15 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A number of creator types stay single or have > > > > > > > > > > > arrangements that allow > > > > > > > > > > > for a good deal of freedom but that does not guarantee > > > > > > > > > > > inspiration in > > > > > > > > > > > and of itself. Often, creativity feeds just as well on > > > > > > > > > > > pressured > > > > > > > > > > > enviornments and committments.//I doubt most children > > > > > > > > > > > feel better off > > > > > > > > > > > without both parents but the notion of family has changed > > > > > > > > > > > greatly so > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps they adapt better these days. And a wretched > > > > > > > > > > > marriage is > > > > > > > > > > > wretched for all plus what is lonlier than a bad > > > > > > > > > > > marriage? Sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > it seems strange that I took to motherhood > > > > > > > > > > > considering...But > > > > > > > > > > > motherhood has also changed, hasn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 1:49 pm, vamadevananda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I have turned my emotional switch to 0." > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all do that. And can never succeed, because emotions > > > > > > > > > > > > are another > > > > > > > > > > > > name of human experience. They are ours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, some of us are better off without life partner > > > > > > > > > > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mostly, for the sake of the other. Rarely, for oneself > > > > > > > > > > > > ... for some > > > > > > > > > > > > higher priority we must pursue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 11:18 pm, DarkwaterBlight > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Crisis? Yes I believe you may be correct in > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation. I think I have developed a willful > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignorance or lack of > > > > > > > > > > > > > empathy when it comes to emotions. I have tried to > > > > > > > > > > > > > share my feelings > > > > > > > > > > > > > to no avail and have been left dissapointed and > > > > > > > > > > > > > feeling broken. So in > > > > > > > > > > > > > an attenpt to heal I have turned my emotional switch > > > > > > > > > > > > > to 0. I can see > > > > > > > > > > > > > my own spiritual crisis and do not wish to have the > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsibility of > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone elses 'baggage' as rigsy03 has pointed out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > After our > > > > > > > > > > > > > seperation I tryed again to no avail and yet I still > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to make that > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection and keep hitting the same brick wall. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > know the answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > lies within myself but I'm not sure if I want to know > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. I guess I > > > > > > > > > > > > > like living in the dillusion that I am fine being > > > > > > > > > > > > > alone in life. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that is never true as we all have each other but > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am refering to > > > > > > > > > > > > > a permanant mate and partner in life. It's too easy > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me to give up > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the idea rather than trying so hard and fighting > > > > > > > > > > > > > to keep a > > > > > > > > > > > > > relationship. I know too well that there are many > > > > > > > > > > > > > fish in the sea and > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love seafood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:54 pm, vamadevananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Emotionally draining, we literally sucked the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life out of each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you believe or are able to conceive, in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > face of your contrary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience, that it is possible for two people to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduate to ' giving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life to each other,' rather than sucking, to ' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enriching each other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotionally,' than draining ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you recall the movie sketching the life an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > authoress, played by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate Winslet, and her male live - in fan, whose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disappointments and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual crisis in later age anyone could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > empathise with ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 7:41 pm, DarkwaterBlight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truly I did have expectations, in the begining of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my marriage, that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were the fairy tale type. Reality struck hard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > early on in our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realtionship, we were both poor and from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dysfunctional backrounds. We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were very aware > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
