I agree with you... people who argue that children whos parents have constantly changing partners or are relatively unstable are emotionally challenged than their normal family counterparts are so wrong..i think on the other hand they grow up to be more practical without any illusions about life..
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 5:42 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > The emotions could be a "front" for a woman's need for security and > protection- especially if there are children involved. It's more > acceptable to tuck these needs under the mantle of love. Romantic > "Love" was invented by the troubadors and continue as a mass marketing > ploy in current times- prior to that families had the say in pairings- > mostly for practical/religious reasons.// Older men are drawn to > younger women in part thinking they will have a free nurse. :-) They > also need youth to remember their own- however misty and foggy. I have > long thought that adultery is more of a male contest and the woman is > incidental and many relationships are little more than a rebellious > reaction against parents.//Anyway, things certainly get stranger and > stranger ...one beau is in a nursing home and another has spent the > last five weeks in ICU! Male neighbors in their 50's-70's are > gradually falling apart and the elder ones walk with a creak in their > bones.//I think I must have used up my allotment of lovers although > hardware stores are a temptation and am often tempted to put one of > those sweethearts into my cart- same at the supermarket. Anyway, given > the luncheon scuttlebutt of married women, I no longer think the grass > is greener. Actually, much of my sympathy goes to males who must deal > with liberated militant feminists- maybe because I have three grown > sons and a son-in-law. That's another myth about single mothers- my > children are adjusted and happy while I have watched "perfect couples" > endure many problems with their mates and children.//There are other > outlets for lust and libido besides sex... > > On Jun 25, 9:29 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > I guess depending on how fast you want to travel it could be both! I' > > have been reluctant to reply to this thread but I do share some of > > your views PSK. Truth is that I have been married for close to 20 > > years now but I have not lived with my wife for clos to 5 years. We > > are both much happier than we were when we lived together. I have had > > a few long term relationships since and they were just too much for me > > personally. I have a GF now and she wants to pin me down, I feel > > smothered. We lived together for a while and I wound up excomunicating > > her from the solice of my abode. We are still 'together' but during > > the course of our 1 year relationship I have had (and still do have) a > > few different partners including her best friend who has shared our > > bed on different occasions. She want's monagamy until we GET MARRIED! > > Imagine that! I'm still married to the mother of my children and I > > don't see that changing. Polyamorous relationships ARE possible but it > > takes complete transparancy and a strong commitment to your > > 'significant' other. I, however transparent I may be, can only be > > commited to being a father and a good friend! I love her and all of > > the women who I have 'known' equally. The love that some women require > > I cannot and will not provide. Too emotional and without logic! Imho, > > being 'in love' is, as Arch says, a fairy tale. > > > > On Jun 25, 5:33 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thats the beauty isnt it..our own separatre roads..running parrallel to > some > > > at some point departing ..reconnecting again...intersecting with > some...or > > > is it more like a river... > > > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM, vamadevananda <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > You have to take your own journey forward, your way, with your > desires > > > > and ideas, and your suppositions or beliefs. That learning curve can > > > > hardly be progressed upon by wishing, opinionation or argumentation > on > > > > a discussion forum. Make your choices, have the experience, and know > > > > and conclude for yourself ! > > > > > > I've stated my conclusions, from my experience and understanding. > > > > > > On Jun 25, 11:19 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > and is it not possible to celebrate that oneness in the > multitudes.. why > > > > > settle down.. i do not say.. have a string of affairs...wat i am > saying > > > > here > > > > > is.. that completeness can come by sharing with more than one.. two > does > > > > not > > > > > always have to form a single unit.. it can be three or four or > > > > watever...wat > > > > > we are told mostly.. there is the one for you...but that is not wat > i > > > > want > > > > > to believe nor will i believe it.. it is circumstances that make us > > > > settle > > > > > for one... > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:09 PM, vamadevananda < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > The point, Kid, is in this oneness we see everywhere, as in > apparent > > > > > > unit systems such as you and I, a pond or mountain, a pig and a > tree, > > > > > > atom or organs. There is one - ness, unity, evident in each > > > > > > individuation, having a form and qualities, properties and > aspects, > > > > > > character or personality ... individualised being. > > > > > > > > The diversity of such ' ones ' is mind boggling. But we come to > see > > > > > > their interconnections as we widen our scale of view, over space > and > > > > > > time. And lo, we discover other ' units ' in biospheres, > Himalayas, > > > > > > oceans, continents ... earth, solar systems, galaxies ... > universe. > > > > > > The universe is the One ... Universe. > > > > > > > > In the context of your post, ALL of us have problems with > settling > > > > > > down with one, or as One. But since they are each in the same > line of > > > > > > truth, some of us see the merit in each, try hard to retain in > memory > > > > > > all the time, untill the segregating or dissipating forces in our > > > > > > psychic world relent and let our experience and understanding > > > > > > complete. > > > > > > > > I have spoken of our higher nature and I am partial towards it. > That's > > > > > > when we are comfortable with one, as one. Studies in clinical > > > > > > psychology and psychosomatics, yoga and meditation, confirm the > > > > > > wellness it offers. That leaves you free and uncluttered, happy > and > > > > > > good. Even officials in the police department respect that. > > > > > > > > At any point in time, not everybody is capable of it; some might > not > > > > > > want it. And many are not aware of it, at least enough to choose > > > > > > it ! > > > > > > > > On Jun 24, 2:36 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > and your point is?? > > > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 1:33 am, vamadevananda <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Do you know what a system ( closed or open ) is, Kid ? > > > > > > > > > > The Universe is a system ( not sure if it closed or open ), > in > > > > which > > > > > > > > everything else is included. It is One, quite apart from each > being > > > > or > > > > > > > > all beings it includes, not excluding the ones now or yet > > > > unmanifest ! > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:26 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have a hard time believing when someone tells me that > they have > > > > > > > > > found the one... what does it mean anyway..The one.. why > does it > > > > > > thave > > > > > > > > > to be one...I believe that people can and do fall in love > with > > > > more > > > > > > > > > than one person at the same time...and that is why i am > opposed > > > > to > > > > > > > > > marriage as an institution...a promise to be with each > other > > > > > > > > > forever!...I think open relationships are much > better..there is > > > > no > > > > > > > > > emotional burden...Also sexual and emotional intimacy does > not > > > > always > > > > > > > > > have to be in one single package.. i do not see adultery as > > > > something > > > > > > > > > horrible...and i really resented the way media made an > example of > > > > > > > > > Tiger woods and his many affairs...so wat he slept with > many > > > > women.. > > > > > > > > > its not like they didnt know who he was and that he was > > > > married...The > > > > > > > > > fact that religion penetrated and dictated every aspect of > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > lives still shows its effects...sex is something sacred and > at > > > > the > > > > > > > > > same time tabboed(although some countries have come to take > > > > liberal > > > > > > > > > views there are still many orthodox societies)... its a > natural > > > > > > > > > instinct why make something else out of it...its like > hunger..The > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > you try to regulate it the more you pervert it...the fact > that > > > > > > > > > teenagers are told to abstain should only be because of > health > > > > > > reasons > > > > > > > > > not because premarital sex is a sin...It was because that > > > > religion > > > > > > > > > first dictated that homosexuality is immoral that > subsequent > > > > legal > > > > > > > > > bans on it followed.. and it is still so ingrained in > society > > > > that > > > > > > > > > most homosexuals have a hard life..only because of one > aspect of > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > individuality... As for monogamy i really dont think it is > a > > > > > > universal > > > > > > > > > truth...i mean it was fine when the mortality rate was > around 50 > > > > you > > > > > > > > > could stick around with one.. but things are changing... > And with > > > > the > > > > > > > > > society must evolve its institutions and the values related > to > > > > these > > > > > > > > > institutions ... So after all this rambling all id like to > say is > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > the society should rethink its basic elements which it > takes for > > > > > > > > > granted ...i dont mean to offend all you happily married > people > > > > out > > > > > > > > > there.. just a private opinion.. and I'd like to know wat > you all > > > > > > > > > think..- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > -- > > > > > \--/ Peace > > > > > -- > > > \--/ Peace- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- \--/ Peace
