I quite like having the radio or television on when I'm working.  This
morning it was Test Match Special, but we trashed the Pakistanis in
short order, so I thought I'd have some mindless Startrek in the
background.- last night it was the brilliant Russian film 'Company
9'.  Sadly, I have to hit the mute button to get rid of adverts and
the even worse promos.I'd like to be able to access services without
ads and promos and would pay.  "Economics" means I can't get what I
want.  I want to buy what products I need at fair prices - "economics"
makes this very difficult.  I suspect "economics" is a means of
denying us politics.

On 1 Aug, 13:45, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I too know something on arming Allan - but what is the genral case?
>
> On 1 Aug, 07:53, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > farming  hmmm know a little about it from crops irrigation,
> > fertilizing,plowing, crop rotation, land management, forest management.
> > growing mushrooms, composting, haying, dairying, cheese production.. but it
> > definitely is not enough my farm is paid off.
> > Allan
>
> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:20 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > We have little real idea of whether capitalism has brought wealth
> > > beyond dreams.  What we have in economics generally is a wad of
> > > polemic and we generally read, ignore or never know much detail, or
> > > how to build theories from the ground up or scientific dreams.
> > > Take farming as an example.  Try writing down what you know about
> > > working land to produce food.  Not much I expect.
> > > How about organising the design and production of goods?
> > > What about what people really enjoy or might enjoy?
>
> > > I suspect the reality of capitalism for most people varies depending
> > > on where they live.  I can write a book and maybe make some money
> > > Others have never learned to write, but can sign up for months on a
> > > tuna boat.  I do virtually sod all in comparison, but get to eat his
> > > tuna. I know I would rather have lived differently and think none of
> > > this was ever necessary.  When capitalism can't use you it lets you
> > > starve or enter benefits limbo if you are lucky.
>
> > > I go back to Plato - he realises political systems are crap and writes
> > > a crapper one in his own interests.  Is there much difference between
> > > Greek leisured society and those well off now?
> > > If we bleat about a world fair for all, and do so without
> > > consideration of those who want to maintain crude, sexist religions
> > > and breed until war seems a good idea, what are we doing?  If we
> > > praise capitalism  but don't wonder about what a mess the world is
> > > still in, what are we doing?
>
> > > Economics is delta hedging intercourse with the penguin and being
> > > bothered about Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
>
> > > On 1 Aug, 00:09, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > If it did try to represent middle class values it was a small sliver.
> > > > The middle class is most of American society and is hugely diverse.
> > > > Please refrain from "your"- as you already have noted you do not know
> > > > my "your".
>
> > > > On Jul 31, 8:40 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > That was my point in noting The Graduate as representing your glowing
> > > > > middle-class values.
>
> > > > > On Jul 31, 5:11 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > It was a strange film but true about "plastics"= the future. The
> > > > > > female characters were pathetic and farcical and Dustin was a dolt.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 30, 4:18 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Correction:
>
> > > > > > > Mrs. Robinson = The Graduate (1967)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > --
> >  (
> >   )
> > I_D Allan
>
> > Be Paranoid.
> > God is always building a better idiot!!!

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