" That it is born according to its good and bad karmas presents a difficulty
as to who decides about it as you yourself cannot. If there is no God ..."

Why may I not ? Perhaps, I am the one who decides, and not the one (
individual consciousness ) that does not !

It implies a case for knowing more, more completely and truthfully, our own
nature ... the who or what we are, in truth, and not as it appears.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:55 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> That there is an individual consciousness and it is born again and again
> presents a difficulty as to who decides its karma as a consequence of which
> it is born into evil and good wombs. That it is born according to its good
> and bad karmas presents a difficulty as to who decides about it as you
> yourself cannot. If there is no God , I don't see how it could be determined
> what is good or bad , as the definition of this differs from society to
> society. I think the logic behind all this is faulty and as I said earlier
> you may as well believe in ghosts and ghouls.
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking it is something like information that is traveling
>> through the airwaves like radio and television but let's say there is
>> no receiver to present the information to the general public like
>> televisions and radios.  So the psychic or clairvoyant has some
>> ability to intercept the transmission of postmortem energy that is if
>> there is any energy to be received.  The consciousness, without a new
>> physical form, probably remains out there in the cosmos until such
>> time as it becomes a new person and within that time frame that
>> consciousness can be intercepted.  This was the basis for my quantum
>> travel and dreams thread from yesteryear in which I presented the idea
>> that much of our lucid dream content is tapping into another
>> consciousness whether it is one confined to this planet, one in the
>> cosmos or one in a parallel universe is up for grabs.  There is
>> certainly much to be explored in this area.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 6:19 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > "... On Aug 17, 12:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
>> >
>> > > ... not to say that consciousness does not exist without physicality.
>> >
>> > Perhaps it does and we are just not aware of it yet.  Psychics and
>> > clairvoyants claim to contact the deceased.  Not that I believe any of
>> > their folderol but the idea of a consciousness without a physical body
>> > has been around for a long time.  I think that consciousness might
>> > just be real based solely on the physical laws of the universe (as we
>> > understand them to be), namely the law of the conservation of matter
>> > and energy.  Neither can be destroyed or created.  They just change
>> > form.  What happens to our life energy when the body dies?  It's
>> > anyone's guess and mine is that in some who are properly prepared,
>> > that consciousness might just survive with its identity intact.
>> > Otherwise, it probably just rejoins the vast pool of energy that
>> > pulses throughout the universe.
>>
>
>


-- 
ASHOK TEWARI

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