On 16 Aug, 07:48, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/9/2010 9:52 AM, Pat wrote:
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> > I think that usage is not particularly scientific but more
> > colloquial.  Deane answer, below, is more the scientific view.  Also,
> > we must remember that "good person" couldn't possibly apply to those
> > that are not "Homo Sapiens", yet evolution applies to ALL species.
> > Thus, even if I train my dog to have perfect "Western" table manners,
> > it's still not a 'good person'--might be a great dog and a helluva
> > canine, but not a good person.  And, of course, table manners are no
> > show of evolution despite the fact that there are people who display
> > them who feel that they are "a product of better breeding"; whereas,
> > in truth, it might just be better 'training' (i.e., table manners is
> > little more than 'stupid human tricks' and certainly doesn't
> > demonstrate whether or not a person is 'good' or have any bearing on
> > their evolution).  As an aside to this and to link them together in a
> > sideways kind of way, I suppose the habit that Englishmen have of
> > 'holding the knife with the right hand' whether or not the individual
> > is using it, MAY actually BE good evolution, as it affords them a
> > better chance at defending themselves if attacked whilst eating!!
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> I think this thread has covered habit, habitat and now habituation :),
> and I agree often walking and talking like one may be a sign, but then
> what is this 'duck' anyways?
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> Surprise a southpaw might keep the knife in the right for more practical
> reasons, one might want to reserve the greatest asset to flexible use,
> in a split second how many people will drop a knife for one of the
> dozens of other effective weapons at a dinner table. Well the thought
> crossed my mind recently when I wondered why I was cutting awkwardly
> with my right. I switched for ease but was annoyed at the fact this gave
> away tactical information. After consideration I decided it is best to
> keep a hot cup of coffee at the table, glass plates, and preferably a
> table/chairs with wooden legs and not bolted to the floor. There's large
> numbers of people around, all pretending to be caught up in little
> table-worlds, conspicuous consumption at it's best. Worst of all, I
> can't lick my plate. :( I should stand up before leaving and do that
> sometime just to see what it feels like, would I feel the cruching
> anxiety of people judging me or would I feel free? I could think to
> myself I feel free of judgement, while the onlookers would say look what
> society is devolving into. My secret is while most people would think
> this doglike behavior, I have pride in it, I remember how little most
> know of dogs (people, or reality) or what it is like to starve like one.
> Nothing directed at you personally Pat, just ranting somewhat in context.

I found nothing in it to take personal offense to.  I take it from
this, that you, like me, are left-handed.  As the old saying
goes...we're the ones in our 'right mind'!!

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