Christians believe God did appear in the human/divine form of Christ
and even the Greeks via Homer had the gods and goddesses out and about
like busybodies; other rituals ascribe the appearances and blessings
of gods and saints,etc.// There are too many instances of holy men,
hermits, monks and nuns who chose a private existence versus the
world's applause. The reverse is certainly evident in today's
politicians and celebrities who can't expose themselves enough and
live for publicity. Milton has a sonnet-XIX- "When I consider how my
life is spent"...

On Aug 21, 1:02 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> "... On Aug 18, 12:14 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]>
> wrote: ..."
>
> > "Of what good is thought and creativity if it
> > is not shared with others?  If a person is monastic in the extreme --
> > a hermit with no contact whatsoever with anyone else -- of what good,
> > what use, what value, is that person's thoughts and creativity?"-Gruff
>
> > Now here is a good argument FOR intelligent design! Perhaps my
> > thinking is a bit skewd, but the answer to the question is that the
> > value would be equivalent to the entire universe!
>
> I'm not seeing how this is a good argument for intelligent design.
> From here there seems no good argument for it while there are several
> good arguments for pure evolution and the admission that we simply
> don't know what was before the Big Bang.  We can speculate -- and many
> have much to the detriment of our advancement -- but in the end it
> seems one must either admit that it is unknown or that all one has is
> a mere belief with no basis in reality.
>
> Given my earlier statement about the power of belief and the vast
> numbers of people over the eons who have believed in gods, it seems
> rather remarkable that none have appeared.  I wonder if that means
> that belief in gods is an invalid concept.
>
> To rhetorically answer my own question about the value of a person's
> thoughts and creativity, to my thinking it is in the further
> advancement of human knowledge, wisdom and benefit.

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