All very well, gruff, but on the top of the heap I see other animals,
plants, stones, water, air. And there goes my feeling of
superiority. :-(

On 25 Aug., 22:11, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> "... On Aug 24, 4:56 am, Pat <[email protected]>
> wrote: ..."
>
> > Well, I like your approach.  Conservation of energy is very important
> > and something many atheists don't consider in the way you do.  It
> > sounds to me like you allow for the possibility of a God,
> > though...just that you aren't convinced or are of the strongly-leaning-
> > towards-atheism-due-to-lack-of-evidence-otherwise, which is fair
> > enough.  However, what makes you think human beings are the supreme
> > creatures of the universe?  Why not dolphins?  They don't have wars.
> > I don't find your views far-fetched--certainly nowhere near as far-
> > fetched as some people find mine.  ;-)
>
> Most atheists I've met seem to be nihilists.  Not my cup of tea.
> Neither is the possibility of a god.  I've been atheist more than 50
> years and while I may not have been absolutely convinced of the
> absence of a god or gods for my first decade or so, by the time I was
> thirty I was absolute.
>
> As for whether the human species are the supreme creatures in the
> universe, we are without doubt the supreme creatures on this planet.
> Other species may have some characteristics we may envy as being more
> developed then some of our own, overall we have conquered our
> environment and changed it drastically.  No other species even
> attempts to change it's environment.  We are the only ones who have
> the vision and creativity to do so.  To my thinking this makes us
> superior on this planet.
>
> However, regarding whether we are the supreme creatures in all of
> existence, I rely on a belief in irony.  The irony that we keep
> looking for a species more superior, more developed, more civilized
> than ourselves, indicates to me that we are alone in that
> superiority.  I've no doubt we'll find other life forms but we'll
> still be at the top of the heap.

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