The doing does speak of our intellect, Slip.

But it's the stopping, the non - doing, that would prove our developed
intellect, the one which would trash this ' superiority ' we carry about
ourselves !


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is just an emotional sentiment gabb, an endearing recognition of
> natural beauty and strength.  I don't see where you lose your sense of
> superiority.  Within the confines of our planet we have dominated all
> other species mostly through intellect and group interaction.  We've
> taken down the mammoths and caged the beasts, we keep lesser species
> on leashes as pets while we utilize plants and rocks to form our
> gardens and playgrounds.  We can, to some degree we have, lay waste to
> water and air, as the bad stewards we are, and while these elements
> sustain us we still can change them even if is means our demise.
>
> On Aug 26, 4:03 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > All very well, gruff, but on the top of the heap I see other animals,
> > plants, stones, water, air. And there goes my feeling of
> > superiority. :-(
> >
> > On 25 Aug., 22:11, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > "... On Aug 24, 4:56 am, Pat <[email protected]>
> > > wrote: ..."
> >
> > > > Well, I like your approach.  Conservation of energy is very important
> > > > and something many atheists don't consider in the way you do.  It
> > > > sounds to me like you allow for the possibility of a God,
> > > > though...just that you aren't convinced or are of the
> strongly-leaning-
> > > > towards-atheism-due-to-lack-of-evidence-otherwise, which is fair
> > > > enough.  However, what makes you think human beings are the supreme
> > > > creatures of the universe?  Why not dolphins?  They don't have wars.
> > > > I don't find your views far-fetched--certainly nowhere near as far-
> > > > fetched as some people find mine.  ;-)
> >
> > > Most atheists I've met seem to be nihilists.  Not my cup of tea.
> > > Neither is the possibility of a god.  I've been atheist more than 50
> > > years and while I may not have been absolutely convinced of the
> > > absence of a god or gods for my first decade or so, by the time I was
> > > thirty I was absolute.
> >
> > > As for whether the human species are the supreme creatures in the
> > > universe, we are without doubt the supreme creatures on this planet.
> > > Other species may have some characteristics we may envy as being more
> > > developed then some of our own, overall we have conquered our
> > > environment and changed it drastically.  No other species even
> > > attempts to change it's environment.  We are the only ones who have
> > > the vision and creativity to do so.  To my thinking this makes us
> > > superior on this planet.
> >
> > > However, regarding whether we are the supreme creatures in all of
> > > existence, I rely on a belief in irony.  The irony that we keep
> > > looking for a species more superior, more developed, more civilized
> > > than ourselves, indicates to me that we are alone in that
> > > superiority.  I've no doubt we'll find other life forms but we'll
> > > still be at the top of the heap.




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ASHOK TEWARI

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