We can agree on that Vam, of the non-doing, but there are those that do and those that don't, that is what "green" is all about. We can't address humanity in a generalized sense. There are too many variables and as much individualism in nature including the species of plant and animal life. For every doing there are the protestations of non doers. We still maintain a relative superiority over all other species and plant life. A shark is superior to the cod fish and fish haven't evolved beyond sea life where as we have survival undersea, in outer space, underground, in fields and forests. A mountain is majestic but we can render is a mere pile of pebbles with dynamite. Not having control of our intellect does not negate our intellect nor our superiority on earth. We are fallible and have intellectual flaws which cloud our inherent superiority. We have the tools but sometimes we're not really sure of what to do with them. Toss in ego and greed and the problems become more transparent.
On Aug 26, 8:08 am, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote: > The doing does speak of our intellect, Slip. > > But it's the stopping, the non - doing, that would prove our developed > intellect, the one which would trash this ' superiority ' we carry about > ourselves ! > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > That is just an emotional sentiment gabb, an endearing recognition of > > natural beauty and strength. I don't see where you lose your sense of > > superiority. Within the confines of our planet we have dominated all > > other species mostly through intellect and group interaction. We've > > taken down the mammoths and caged the beasts, we keep lesser species > > on leashes as pets while we utilize plants and rocks to form our > > gardens and playgrounds. We can, to some degree we have, lay waste to > > water and air, as the bad stewards we are, and while these elements > > sustain us we still can change them even if is means our demise. > > > On Aug 26, 4:03 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > All very well, gruff, but on the top of the heap I see other animals, > > > plants, stones, water, air. And there goes my feeling of > > > superiority. :-( > > > > On 25 Aug., 22:11, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "... On Aug 24, 4:56 am, Pat <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: ..." > > > > > > Well, I like your approach. Conservation of energy is very important > > > > > and something many atheists don't consider in the way you do. It > > > > > sounds to me like you allow for the possibility of a God, > > > > > though...just that you aren't convinced or are of the > > strongly-leaning- > > > > > towards-atheism-due-to-lack-of-evidence-otherwise, which is fair > > > > > enough. However, what makes you think human beings are the supreme > > > > > creatures of the universe? Why not dolphins? They don't have wars. > > > > > I don't find your views far-fetched--certainly nowhere near as far- > > > > > fetched as some people find mine. ;-) > > > > > Most atheists I've met seem to be nihilists. Not my cup of tea. > > > > Neither is the possibility of a god. I've been atheist more than 50 > > > > years and while I may not have been absolutely convinced of the > > > > absence of a god or gods for my first decade or so, by the time I was > > > > thirty I was absolute. > > > > > As for whether the human species are the supreme creatures in the > > > > universe, we are without doubt the supreme creatures on this planet. > > > > Other species may have some characteristics we may envy as being more > > > > developed then some of our own, overall we have conquered our > > > > environment and changed it drastically. No other species even > > > > attempts to change it's environment. We are the only ones who have > > > > the vision and creativity to do so. To my thinking this makes us > > > > superior on this planet. > > > > > However, regarding whether we are the supreme creatures in all of > > > > existence, I rely on a belief in irony. The irony that we keep > > > > looking for a species more superior, more developed, more civilized > > > > than ourselves, indicates to me that we are alone in that > > > > superiority. I've no doubt we'll find other life forms but we'll > > > > still be at the top of the heap. > > -- > ASHOK TEWARI
