> The first is the way of the book, faith in salvation etc. and all that
> this path involves.  - OM
“I have to ask: Salvation from what?  I believe the only sphere where
that applies with any reality is in salvation from ourselves.  To
quote my favorite cartoon character and his creator, "We have met the
enemy and they is us." “ – gruff

> The second is the way of knowledge.
> Both exist. Both are essential.  – orn

“I agree if my statement as to what we need salvation from is
accepted. “ – gruff


Gruff…you?...have to ask?...Ha! We know you know what I was talking
about.

So, IF for some unknown reason you decide to deny that people look for
salvation from sin within paths of faith, how do you explain these
people? Seriously?

Further, since you clearly do not wish to accept that people of the
book as well as people of knowledge are necessary, what is your
solution for the former group?


On Aug 26, 4:59 pm, Deane Kellison <[email protected]> wrote:
> do you really believe the  "  The days of brute force are subsiding even 
> though it still occurs."
>
> Deane
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:11:48 -0700
> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: The Phenomenon ' I '
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
>
> > Ah yes Pogo, I remember that.  Is he still syndicated?
>
> > I would agree that we are getting better at understanding our
> > intellect and how to better apply it.  The days of brute force are
> > subsiding even though it still occurs.
>
> > On Aug 26, 1:38 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > "... On Aug 26, 8:59 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
>
> > > > Not having control of our intellect does not negate our intellect nor
> > > > our superiority on earth.  We are fallible and have intellectual flaws
> > > > which cloud our inherent superiority.  We have the tools but sometimes
> > > > we're not really sure of what to do with them.  Toss in ego and greed
> > > > and the problems become more transparent.
>
> > > I would add that we are slowly gaining more control over our intellect
> > > and perhaps even more important, over our emotions.
>
> > > The rest of your statement is neatly summed up by Pogo (see above) in
> > > that we are our own worst enemy.

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