" ... blowing in the wind."

I suggest : ... spitting in th wind, for females. And : ... pissing in the
wind, for males !

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is interesting, in this thread, so many have taken the task to tell
> others how to express themselves.  I have not found any problems with
> RPs posts (indeed, a great deal of understanding of the subject), and
> like gabby, don't think anyone should have to defend him, is there a
> gang forming here?  Some of us make our sufi like responses, others
> make statements reflecting our views and give links with info to back
> them up.  None of this is new and none of it is the basis for
> opposition.  We are all free to express our views in any post within
> the parameters of the guidelines, and all free to choose not to post.
> But unless a moderator steps in with a reminder of the guidelines,
> anyone telling another what to say and how to act in here is just
> blowing in the wind.
>
> In terms of the thread, these may be the very thoughts that plague our
> minds obsessively that we would be better off releasing than indulging
> in reaction.  Thoughts about how the world comes up short, is
> disappointing, how others should be are all malignant ego, and if
> released, leave room within us for honest self examination.  Levels of
> consciousness filled with thoughts of fear, anger, resentment etc
> multiply these thoughts exponentially and uncontrollably until our
> minds cannot turn off from them.  Levels of consciousness filled with
> peace and quiet, compassion, love and gratitude allow us to better
> witness the process of thought and mind in consciousness.  This kind
> of self examination cannot occur in the first mentioned level, and
> will inevitably occur in the second.  Truth is, even the mystics will
> admit that it is human to move from state to state, and many suggest a
> spiral dynamic to the movement.
>
> On Sep 8, 12:05 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Seems my vegetarian humor differs quite a bit from yours, Allan. ;-)
> > See what I was going to reply to Darkwater:
> >
> > I don't know why you are doing this, but I think RP can speak for
> > himself. Or shall I say: Let him speak for himself!? Watering down
> > everything to Ken Wilbur does not help to build the arc in time. He
> > says, his words are meant for people who want to understand them. Fair
> > enough. Take what you get and leave the rest behind is my advice to
> > you, Darkwater.
> >
> > On 8 Sep., 17:16, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > LOL  Oddly I know exactly what he is saying from different sources. it
> has
> > > been rumbling around fo eons,, does not make it true and because some
> people
> > > make something dogma and doctrine  of their beliefs still does not make
> it
> > > true. Some things are interesting to look at but then  you let them go.
> To
> > > me far to many beliefs are based promoted and twisted by people to meat
> > > their own needs.
> > > Allan
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM, DarkwaterBlight <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > Oddly, I understand much of what RP is trying to express but it is
> > > > only on account of my relentless research into the subject of the
> > > > thread. Culturaly, here in the west, it is not generaly understood
> > > > that there are two truths, relative and ultimate. Relative truth can
> > > > be described by means of science and assetions can be made that
> > > > something is true or false under the conditions assigned. However, RP
> > > > speaks of ultimate truth and non dual spirit and in doing so, enters
> > > > into the realm of contradiction as the ultimate is empty of qualities
> > > > and categorizations. Ken Wilbur describes this as "The Two Truths
> > > > Doctrine"
> > > >http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/kosmos/excerptG/part1.cfm
> >
> > > > On Sep 8, 5:04 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Words hold so much truth and what we say is but the reflection of
> who we
> > > > are
> >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:20 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > My words are meant for people who want to understand them , for
> the
> > > > others
> > > > > > of your ilk they are just ramblings of a madman and so
> >
> > > > > this leaves me laughing and gives a smile
> > > > > I learned a long time ago from Kipling and others  to even listen
> to the
> > > > > dull and ignorant for they to have their stories.
> > > > > Allan
> >
> > > > > Gruff , I ask you again to be happy as I did the last time when you
> > > > clashed
> >
> > > > > > with me.
> >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:21 AM, gruff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> "... On Sep 7, 9:33 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
> >
> > > > > >> > By using words like  ' I believe'  etc. doesn't make one 's
> words
> > > > less
> > > > > >> > arrogant. It is the content which matters. If you have made up
> your
> > > > mind
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > find fault in me you will continue to do so on one pretext or
> the
> > > > other.
> > > > > >> > Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and so does all else.
> >
> > > > > >> It is hoped that by use of such phrases over time a true respect
> for
> > > > > >> others will develop in other dimensions of your being.   Your
> words do
> > > > > >> not show any such respect for anyone elses words but your own
> which
> > > > > >> you seem to hold in the highest esteem.  Your words almost
> demand some
> > > > > >> form of worship just for you having said them.
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > >  (
> > > > >   )
> > > > > I_D Allan
> >
> > > > > Be Paranoid.
> > > > > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > --
> > >  (
> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
> >
> > > Be Paranoid.
> > > God is always building a better idiot!!!
>



-- 
ASHOK TEWARI

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