Gruff, ALL of the moderators are currently discussing the issue. I don't
think there was any ill intent, but there may have been a miscommunication
on deletion policies. It is the practice of the Minds Eye moderators to not
delete content that doesn't violate Google terms of service, without a
discussion as to the reasoning behind it.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:44 PM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:

> This morning I posted a short piece using economics to show why (IMHO)
> religion and philosophy, the subjects of this thread, are irrelevant.
>
> Molly, in a fit of irrational pique, unilaterally deleted the post and
> sent me the following message by private email:
>
> "Gruff, I deleted your last post from the Understanding: Mind,
> Consciousness, Thought thread because it had nothing to do with the
> thread and is an article on a different topic. If you wish to post as
> a new thread, I suggest you do this. Or you may have meant to post
> this article in Slip's Isn't religion wonderful thread. At any rate, I
> wanted to let you know. / Molly"
>
> I have this day complained about her irrational and prejudicial
> actions based in her dislike of me and anything I say.
>
> I have also posted the following email to OrnamentalMind whom I
> understand to be  the head honcho moderator here on ME.
>
> ====
> Orn, in a fit of ornery pique because she looks for any reason to slam
> me, Molly deleted a post I put up this morning about which she says in
> a private email to me:
>
>        "Gruff, I deleted your last post from the Understanding: Mind,
> Consciousness, Thought thread because it had nothing to do with the
> thread and is an article on a different topic. If you wish to post as
> a new thread, I suggest you do this. Or you may have meant to post
> this article in Slip's Isn't religion wonderful thread. At any rate, I
> wanted to let you know."
>
> I did not post my piece to the wrong group.  My piece is directly
> related to that thread since it points out .... well, here, read it
> for yourself.  The relevant part is in blue.
>
>        Spend Spend Spend: A short opinion piece on getting the wheels
> turning.
>
>        When the wheels of consumer spending start whirling around,
> everything else jumps on the bandwagon.  We need another call to arms
> similar to that Kennedy made: Don't ask what the country can spend for
> you, ask what you can spend for your country.
>
>        It's true.  Corporations and businesses are sitting on
> trillions of dollars.  Markets are flourishing but only on the basis
> of mergers and acquisitions.  Financial institutions are achieving
> ever higher profits based solely on pared down balance sheets.
> Individuals are reducing credit card debt and saving again.  All are
> waiting with baited breath to see which way the wind will blow.
>
>        Problem is the wind.  That's us.  We, the consumers of the
> world -- which include everyone from the homeless wench pushing her
> grocery cart of worldly possessions down a forlorn street to Warren
> Buffet, Carlos Slim, the Walton gang and Bill Gates -- are all the
> wind behind the sails of the economy.  We are its engine.  Think about
> it.  Unless there is demand productiion will languish.  No one is
> going to produce a product or service if there is no demand for it.
> Demand determines quantity, direction and growth.
>
>        We had it right last time but we got greedy and over-extended
> on every level.  We did it to ourselves again.  Well, we always do,
> don't we?  It's a moot point but if we could learn to behave we'd do
> alright.  Big huge gigantic if.
>
>        This is why religion and philosophy are irrelevant.  Both have
> been charged with teaching people to behave well.  But the simple fact
> is the human race behaves rather poorly most of the time and neither
> discipline has produced much good and a lot of blather.  So we rely on
> law and regulation.
>
>        Religion and philosophy at best are bright shiny objects to
> wonder at.  But we are coming into adulthood and it's time to put the
> toys away and do what we seem to do best: When we back our collective
> asses into a tight corner we finally get up off them and get back in
> the game, each time it is hoped with a bit more wisdom and will to
> discipline.
>
>        Especially now when so much is depending on us.  So lets start
> spending some of that money and credit.  It's our responsibility to
> give back by buying new cars, appliances, clothing, electronics and
> new houses in order to get things moving so we may once again reap the
> profits and benefits of a vital and growing capitalist economy.
>
>        And for the nouveaux pauvres let us be generous of heart and
> allow and encourage our government to grant humane access to food,
> clothing, education and shelter to all in need.  Money spent in this
> manner will come back to us twofold or more and is no less an
> investment in our heritage than butter for guns.
>
>        This is not to say we will have achieved the Xanadu of our
> desires, but it is hoped that we will have learned enough from this
> past fiasco to avoid the next one for a much longer time before we
> screw ourselves up again.  We know it's coming so the best we can do
> each time is put a larger distance and time between the occurrances.
>
>        Est sicut est: We have met the enemy once again and once
> again, it is us.
>
> ====
>
> I strongly object to her prejudicial behavior just because she doesn't
> like me or what I have to say.  I am making this a formal protest
> against her behavior.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gruff aka Edward A. Tomchin
>
>

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