We all at ME are human beings with our failings and limitations and whatever viewpoint we express in this forum is not the word of God , for let alone God we are not even gods. It is not necessary that we use qualitative words like ' I believe ' etc. to convey our shortcomings , rather it should be assumed that we may be right or wrong depending on the general conviction of our audience. The most we can do is to present our point of view and leave it to others to accept it or not.
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:06 PM, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]>wrote: > "I don't know why you are doing this, but I think RP can speak for > himself. Or shall I say: Let him speak for himself!?"- > > I was simply offering an explaination for the communication gap. RP > will most certainly speak for himself. > > "Watering down > everything to Ken Wilbur does not help to build the arc in time." > > It does seem a bit watered down or oversimplified, doesn't it? I do, > however, like how he bridges the gap between pre-modern metaphysics > with the intergal post metaphysics. Just makes sense to build on what > the mystics and sages have laid down as a foundation without > compromising it's integrity. > > "He says, his words are meant for people who want to understand them. > Fair > enough. Take what you get and leave the rest behind is my advice to > you, Darkwater." > > I have and I have also called him on his contradictions in the past. > Is not the purpose of this thread and forum to gain understanding? > > > > On Sep 8, 12:05 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > Seems my vegetarian humor differs quite a bit from yours, Allan. ;-) > > See what I was going to reply to Darkwater: > > > > I don't know why you are doing this, but I think RP can speak for > > himself. Or shall I say: Let him speak for himself!? Watering down > > everything to Ken Wilbur does not help to build the arc in time. He > > says, his words are meant for people who want to understand them. Fair > > enough. Take what you get and leave the rest behind is my advice to > > you, Darkwater. > > > > On 8 Sep., 17:16, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LOL Oddly I know exactly what he is saying from different sources. it > has > > > been rumbling around fo eons,, does not make it true and because some > people > > > make something dogma and doctrine of their beliefs still does not make > it > > > true. Some things are interesting to look at but then you let them go. > To > > > me far to many beliefs are based promoted and twisted by people to meat > > > their own needs. > > > Allan > > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM, DarkwaterBlight < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > Oddly, I understand much of what RP is trying to express but it is > > > > only on account of my relentless research into the subject of the > > > > thread. Culturaly, here in the west, it is not generaly understood > > > > that there are two truths, relative and ultimate. Relative truth can > > > > be described by means of science and assetions can be made that > > > > something is true or false under the conditions assigned. However, RP > > > > speaks of ultimate truth and non dual spirit and in doing so, enters > > > > into the realm of contradiction as the ultimate is empty of qualities > > > > and categorizations. Ken Wilbur describes this as "The Two Truths > > > > Doctrine" > > > >http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/kosmos/excerptG/part1.cfm > > > > > > On Sep 8, 5:04 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Words hold so much truth and what we say is but the reflection of > who we > > > > are > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:20 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > My words are meant for people who want to understand them , for > the > > > > others > > > > > > of your ilk they are just ramblings of a madman and so > > > > > > > this leaves me laughing and gives a smile > > > > > I learned a long time ago from Kipling and others to even listen > to the > > > > > dull and ignorant for they to have their stories. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > Gruff , I ask you again to be happy as I did the last time when you > > > > clashed > > > > > > > > with me. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:21 AM, gruff <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> "... On Sep 7, 9:33 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: ..." > > > > > > > >> > By using words like ' I believe' etc. doesn't make one 's > words > > > > less > > > > > >> > arrogant. It is the content which matters. If you have made up > your > > > > mind > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > find fault in me you will continue to do so on one pretext or > the > > > > other. > > > > > >> > Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and so does all else. > > > > > > > >> It is hoped that by use of such phrases over time a true respect > for > > > > > >> others will develop in other dimensions of your being. Your > words do > > > > > >> not show any such respect for anyone elses words but your own > which > > > > > >> you seem to hold in the highest esteem. Your words almost > demand some > > > > > >> form of worship just for you having said them. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > Be Paranoid. > > > > > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > > Be Paranoid. > > > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - >
